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28-01-2007 21:36
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I haven't taken logic in 10 years and didn't feel like looking up the info at that moment but you are correct, Ad Hominem was what I was referring to.  
 
There's so much to address here that I don't have time to go point by point through everything but I do want to quickly clarify a few things: 
 
To Emily, Jane Fonda acted disgracefully by consorting with the enemy while our troops were being killed in Vietnam. She is very nearly a traitor. They came home to be spit on as they stepped off their planes. This to spite a war they didn't necessarily choose to fight in. She was only upstaged recently by her former husband Ted Turner who went to North Korea and vouched for Kim Jong Il as a decent president. Clue to the naive: his people are starving to death and being murdered by his secret police while he lives like a king. 
 
Gideon, like many libs, is inclined to point at the "awful American military-industrial complex" as the source of so many problems not realizing that, without the amazing technologies brought forth by it, they'd be speaking German, Japanese or Russian right now. 
 
And Bob (shrugs and sighs): 
 
"He (Bush) thinks we can balance the budget and still maintain tax relief, the reason for the extra income in the 1st place. And his record shows he won't put a dent in our military”  
 
"Dave, I wish you would read your words over carefully here and see if you can spot the contradictions therein." 
 
Let me spell it out for you, Bob. You seem like a thinking man. Lowering taxes across the board has the effect of stimulating the economy, especially in the business sector. This provides job growth and increases in wages and spending, thus increasing tax revenue. Easy! More money in my pocket means I spend some more. 
 
"At least Clinton took terrorism seriously. Here is a hypothetical for you: I cannot imagine President Gore not noticing Richard Clarke running around the White House 'with his hair on fire.'" 
 
Are you KIDDING ME? Clinton took terror seriously(?), responding to the attack on the USS Cole by sending a cruise missile or two missing Osama at a terrorist camp in Afghanistan. He downgraded the army, letting go of so many trained officers and men that we are at the current crisis in enlistment. Let Osama go in Sudan. Did virtually nothing to gather intelligence, in fact hurting the CIA by having us quit the business of espionage. No wonder there's no proper intelligence when Bush needs it in 2002! And, yes, I could see Al Gore oblivious to a lot more than a guy on the White House lawn with his hair on fire. Did you expect George to stand and clap? The coverage makes my case about the liberal media. I think if you took a poll, most Americans would acknowledge that only one network leans to the right, FOX. The others all lean away from the president. 
 
"...a goal to reduce gasoline consumption by 20% in the next ten years.”  
 
"This would be awesome if he had not already promised a coherent, effective action on exactly these same issues in every State of the Union address since he first stole the election in 2000. As you said in your response, in another context: He needs to either put up or shut up." 
 
Bush HAS made similar proposals that were consistently voted DOWN by the Democratic minority in this area and health care reform etc. The Dems have a party full of selfish naysayers. 
 
The bottom line is that George Bush is an American who's doing what he thinks is right for our country. You can criticize him for mistakes he's made in the past because hindsight is always 20/20. But to accuse him of lying and purposefully decieving the country is wrong and destructive.  
 
He didn't "steal" the election as you say. Did HE create the electoral college? Of course not, he won by the rules at hand.  
 
Not ALL Dems are nice and reach across the aisle neither are the Repubicans, I just wish that people understood all that our fore-fathers and mothers did for this country. I wish that we held ourselves to some to the same standards. When the interests of the nation where at stake, they didn't back down or give up, or blindly criticize. They finished the job. 
 
Show a little respect for the president.
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