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Oct 12 2007

Armenian Genocide

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Editorial

By Gideon Polya

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Turkey, US & Israel Genocide Commission

Carlos Latuff/ MWC NEWS

Ninety years late, the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee voted 27-21 to recognise "the systematic and deliberate annihilation of 1.5 million Armenians as genocide", despite intense lobbying by Bush, Dr. Rice, the Zionist Lobby, the Turkish Government. (see: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17290/233/).

The bipartisan-backed Armenian Genocide resolution calls upon the President to ensure that the foreign policy of the United States reflects appropriate understanding and sensitivity concerning issues related to human rights, ethnic cleansing, and genocide documented in the United States record relating to the Armenian Genocide.

The hope is that this bi-partisan Resolution will pass the House of Representatives despite the opposition by Bush, Turkish governments and their supporters.

George Bush and Dr. Rice (aka Dr. Death) are concerned over US-Turkey relations and because Turkey is a major strategic partner in the Iraq War. Turkey has denied the Armenian Genocide for 90 years - for a scholarly condemnation of this denial see the opinion of one of the World's top expert on genocide, Australia's Professor Colin Tatz .

Apartheid Israel also refuse to describe the Armenian Holocaust as an Armenian Genocide out of concern to not offend Turkey, the only Middle Eastern country with which it has close, cordial, strategic relations. Genocidal birds of a feather flock together.

Denial of the Jewish Holocaust (6 million victims) is punishable by 10 years' imprisonment in Austria and by lengthy prison terms in some other Western European countries and Israel. France and Belgium have recently extended holocaust denial criminalization to include denial of the Armenian Genocide. Indeed Germany has proposed that the EU criminalize denial and minimization of any recent genocides and holocausts.

Some people are concerned with possible constraints on free speech and scholarly research – however I have proposed "no-penalty criminalization" of genocide denial i.e. the punishment would simply be the public ignominy from public judicial conviction for the repugnant crime of genocide denial (see MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/12483/26/ ).

Malaysia's outstanding humanitarian and former prime minister, Dr Mahathir Mohamad, adopted a similar approach to war crimes and genocide commission by Bush, Blair and their confrères (such as Australia's Bush-ite PM John Howard) at the Kuala Lumpur Initiative to Criminalise War, organised by the Perdana Global Peace Organisation and which advocated setting up a War Crimes Tribunal recognized by and on behalf of the Victims (see: here):

"We should not hang Blair if the tribunal finds him guilty but he should always carry the label as a war criminal, killer of children, liar. And so should Bush and the pocket Bush of the bushland of Australia [referring to Australian PM John Howard]… they should be literally hounded.

They should have full frontal and profile pictures put up everywhere as war criminals. And historians should always refer to them as war criminals in history books… the media is owned and controlled by warmongers…

We have to build a base for spreading the word, the idea that wars are crimes against humanity, that those who resort to wars in furtherance of their ideology or agenda are common criminals and must be labelled as such and punished …

We are seeing today examples of the form of punishment that can be meted out. Bush and Blair are now totally reviled and condemned by the world and by their own people … The tribunal that we set up can conduct a proper trial even if the accused is not present. A respectable and totally impartial tribunal applying recognised laws will surely find its findings respected by the world just as the world respects the Nobel laureates, for example."

The holocaust committers, genocide committers, and child killers must be exposed, tried in absentia if necessary and punished, at the very least by public exposure of their crimes.

It is notable that Bush administration, Turkish and Israeli Governments are involved in not only Genocide Denial in relation to the Armenian Genocide but also are involved in the current ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and Iraqis.

Genocide is defined very precisely by the UN Genocide Convention as follows,

Article I. The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and punish.

Article II. In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: a) Killing members of the group; b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Article III. The following acts shall be punished: a) Genocide; b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; d) Attempt to commit genocide; e) Complicity in genocide.

Article IV. Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in Article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals.

The US is involved with its allies (notably Turkey, UK, and Australia) in the violent occupation of Iraq. The post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Iraq now total 2.0 million but the overall excess death toll from 1990-2007 is 3.9 million and there are 4 million Iraqi refugees.

Turkey has been involved in genocidal violence and discrimination against its Kurdish minority, is party to the US Iraqi Genocide and is now threatening to bring the carnage of war to relatively peaceful Northern Iraq.

Israel supports the US "war on terror" that is in horrible reality a War on Asian Women and Children: the excess deaths in the Bush I and Bush II Asian Holocaust totals 8 million (see "United State Terror. 8 millions Deaths & Media Holocaust denial" MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17139/42/ ). Israel's slow Palestinian Genocide has involved 50,000 Palestinian violent deaths, post-1967excess deaths total 0.3 million and there are 7 million refugees. (see "Zionism, Occupation, Palestinian Genocide. "Jerusalem Madonna". Mother & Child" on MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17194/42/ ).

Armenian Genocide-denying Bush administration, Turkey and Apartheid Israel are involved in ongoing Genocide. History ignored yields history repeated. Genocide ignored yields genocide repeated.

Decent folk are obliged to inform everyone they can of atrocities against humanity and to have no avoidable dealings with those complicit in the awful crimes of genocide commission and genocide denial.

Dr Gideon Polya, MWC News Chief political editor, published some 130 works in a 4 decade scientific career, most recently a huge pharmacological reference text "Biochemical Targets of Plant Bioactive Compounds" (CRC Press/Taylor & Francis, New York & London, 2003), and is currently writing a book on global mortality ---
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Comments (19)

1. 13-10-2007 17:13

Some empirical data please, Dr Polya

I was unable to find much empirical data on how many perished and if there are any official orders from Ottoman government specifically for extermination of Armenians. Few dozen survivor stories and comments made by Christian missionaries of the time do not amount to any type of proof.
Most in the West know about this issue through media without any real data, and then assume that it is real.

Could it be real? Maybe. As there are no written evidences, only the tales of survivors, how can we come up with 1.5 million deaths? Did anyone counted? The numbers were half a million in 20s, then 750K; in 80s it went up o 1.5 million. Some today suggest that it was 2 million. Can the number of victims increase 90 years after their deaths?

Why don’t West accept Turkish government's offer for a joint historic research based on empirical data? Is Westerners become such emotionally charged and illogical people in shining armor thinking that they are honoring Armenians while Iraqis are dying in masses as we speak?

alibey20@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Ali Bey

2. 13-10-2007 17:23

re=

Quote:

"the systematic and deliberate annihilation of 1.5 million Armenians as genocide",

This quote was taken from the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee resolution.

Shahram Vahdany

3. 13-10-2007 22:30

Armenian genocide scholarship

The assessment of 1.0-1.5 million Armenians perishing in the WW1 Armenian Genocide comes from major scholarly sources e.g.
1. One of the world's top genocide experts, Professor Colin Tatz, Director of the Centre for Comparative Genocide Studies, Macquarie University, Sydney, Australia e.g. in his article "Genocide in Australia" [Google search for this phrase for link) in which he analyzes the 20th century Racist White Australian forcible removal of 0.1 million Indigenous Children from their mothers, he refers thus to the Armeanian Genocide: "There has been an emotional, even an hysterical, response, to the word genocide. This century has seen several particularly well-documented episodes of the removal of children. The Turks killed close to 1.5 million of their Armenian citizens between 1915 and 1923. One "choice" for Armenian parents was to save their Christian children by "giving" them to Turkish Muslim families. Turkey ferociously denies these events and rejects all talk of restitution. Of importance in our context is the origin of Article II (e) in the Convention. Certainly Lemkin, Donnedieu de Vabres and the other drafters of the Convention didn't seek to include "the forcible removal of children from one group to another group" on the basis of the Jewish experience. Jewish children had no such Armenian choice. Clearly they had the latter's case in mind. They may have had a thought for the 200,000 Polish children who were taken by Nazis to Germany to be raised as physically desirable Aryans. Again, they may have been well aware of the Swiss practice of removing Romani (Gypsy) children over the decades. Both Raphael Lemkin and the United Nations (especially the Greek delegate, Vallindis) ensured that removal of children, and hence their disappearance through assimilation, was a (physical) genocidal act."

2. A classic book on genocide is that by Frank Chalk. and Kurt Jonassohn (1990), The History and Sociology of Genocide. Analyses and Case Studies (Yale University Press, New Haven). The authors state unequivocally in their preface to the chapter of the Armenian Genocide (pp249-289) that, QUOTE : “The genocide of the Armenians in 1915 was the first of the modern ideologically-motivated genocides” and indicates that of 2.1 million Ottoman Empire Armenians only 0.6 million escaped death. Others use a rough figure of about 1 million victims.

What is clear is that a 3,000 year old community in Turkish Anatolia was completely destroyed - an Armenain Genocide that is still being DENIED by Turkish Governments - and is also being DENIED as a genocide by the racist, war criminal, mass murderering, genocidal Bush Administration, notably by Bush and Dr Rice (Dr Death).

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

gpolya@optusnet.com.auNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya

4. 13-10-2007 23:04

Armenian genocide scholarship

Argue all you want but the horror stil persists because nearly 50% of that panel VOTED NO. Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

James Secor

5. 14-10-2007 01:13

Genocide deniers unfit for office

I agree James - absolutely disgusting that about 50% voted no.

The outcry over Iran's President Ahmadinejad merely suggesting more scholarly research into the Jewish Holocaust (e.g. he was FALSELY described as a holocaust denier) indicates general passionate acceptance of the view that Genocide Deniers are UNFIT for public office - ERGO the American public should demand the dismissal of Dr Rice (Dr Death) and her boss George Bush for their public denial of the Armenian Genocide.

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

gpolya@optusnet.com.auNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya

6. 14-10-2007 04:46

re=Ali Bey

This web site is exclusively about Armenian Genocide.

http://www.genocide1915.info/

Shahram

7. 14-10-2007 15:25

Sqawsh that subject

They would just assume that their authoritarian input on thesubject would silence the debate on the subjet matter. The know they are cited for violations of genocide and war crimes in Brussels. They would censor such words from the the english lanquage if they could have their way, so would many of the knowing complicint U.S. public. As in germany they must think they can pretend to turn their heads, as the crimes are commited and at worst only the leaders will pay for the crime.

sjcolorwing@hotmail.comNOSPAM! ">SJ

8. 14-10-2007 15:41

Silence is murder

Dr.Polya, to kind to only point to the goverment administrations. People I imform respond back as, maybe it is better to not know, or what to you hope to prove? Or the next generation will have to get it right or revolt. I am revolted at my fellow man. I see no allegiance to this country or its spoiled capitalist fed public. I am greatful for this site for knowledge and support, as their is little to none around me, I refuse to let them turn their heads and pretend innocence. Of course I have become the bearer of bad news, never the less I believe in the power of one.

sjcolorwing@hotmail.comNOSPAM! ">SJ

9. 14-10-2007 21:25

CAAAA (C4A) & Genocide Denial in 2007

In 1945 ordinary Germans claimed that \"they didn\'t know\" about the Jewish Holocaust (6 million vicitms) but then followed a post-Holocaust protocol that can be summarized by the acronym CAAAA (C4A) involving Cessation of the killing, Acknowledgement, Apology, Amends and Assertion \"Never again to anyone\".

In relation to the Armenian Genocide (1.5 million victims) , there are few Turkish Armenians left to kill (although Turkey continues to abuse and hamper the independent state of Armenia) a succession of racist psychopath Turkish governments are in total denial and offer no Acknowledgement, Apology, Amends or Assertion of future god behaviour.

History ignored yields history repeated. Genocide denied yields genocide repeated.

Genocde denying Turkey is involved in the continued gross abuse of the Kurds (and indeed has now started shelling the relatively peaceful Northern Iraq) and is actively involved in the US-administered Iraqi Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 2.0 million, 4 million refugees).

Of course it is perhaps a bit unfair to single out the Turks. The \"democratic Nazi\" US and its mainly Anglo-Celtic Allies (UK and Australia) plus others (Turkey is involved too) are involved in simultaneous Genocide Commission and Genocide Denial in relation to Occupied Iraq (2 milllion post-invasion excess deaths, 4 million refugees).

The US and its Anglo-Celtic allies (UK, New Zealand, Canada, Australia), Japan and NATO (Germany, Netherlands, France) are involved in Genocide Commission and Genocide Denial in relation to Occupied Afghanistan (3.2 million post-invasion excess deaths, 3.7 million refugees).

Decent folk are obliged to INFORM OTHERS - and to insist under threat of comprehensive Sanctions and Boycotts that the anti-Genocide Protocol CAAAA (C4A) is stringently observed.

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

gpolya@optusnet.com.auNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya

10. 15-10-2007 14:53

armenian genocide

shame on anywhone who no recognize the armenian genocide,

nairi4321@yahoo.esNOSPAM! ">gagik

11. 15-10-2007 21:45

Shame on all genocide deniers

You are absolutely correct Gagik - shame on all genocide deniers.

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

gpolya@optusnet.com.auNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya

12. 16-10-2007 01:58

Shame on all genocide deniers

How do people “officially” deny genocide?

Anonymous

13. 16-10-2007 03:18

Genocide denial by US, Turkey & Israel

Governments "officially" deny Genocide (Genocide being as defined by the UN Genocide Conventions; see Article II in the BLUE PANEL in the article) when they assert that a Genocide Event as thus defined (such as the Armenian Genocide) is not a Genocide.

That indeed has been the contemptible, repugnant position of successive Turkish Governments for 90 years and is the CURRENT contemptible, repugnant postion of the Turkish, Bush US and Racist Zionist Apartheid Israeli Governments.

All decent people believe that there should be zero tolerance for Genocide Commisssion and Genocide Denial.

Decent folk can do their bit by (a) informing others about Genocide atrocities and (b) having no avoidable dealings with those individuals , corporations or countries complicit in Genocide Commission and Genocide Denial (e.g. don't vote for them, don't purchase their goods or services etc).

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

gpolya@optusnet.com.auNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya

14. 16-10-2007 04:50

Will the real perpetrator please step fo

Reciently I watched a docuumentary on the armenian genocide. It expained the changes happening in Turkey at the time of WWII. As much to say no one was watching as they made their march and how they sudued the armenians to leave and then would kill them enroute, rape the women. At some point years latter in Germany a turk or armenian murdered a man who was supposedly party to some of the crimes commited against the armenians. He murdered the man out in public, the trial recieved alot of press. This was how the genocide was exposed to the world, I don't remember if he was convicted of murder. He claimed the man had done some horrendous crime agaist him or his mother. I wish I could remember the details of the trial, because they were crutial in helping to bring it to the medias attention. The verdict of the trial was to be instrimental in helping to LEGITIMIZE what happened not to the incident in Germany but to the armenians. I question all the documentaries now, seeing how the capitalists have distorted the facts, demonization to inform the public, to allow intervention. Strange how the NYT is undieing about the attrocities in Darfur, yet not a peep hardley of a suggestion that the US is inducing genocide, with all the caos and talk of failed attempts for democracy, in Iraq and Afghanistan. Quite the contrary, they are succeeding at (occupation), remaining at the bequest of the legally elected president of Iraq, thus dodging the true meaning as defined as a occupier. In the NYT yesterday Sun 10-14-07 Turkey threw out threats to the US, should those in Washington vote to legitamize the armenian genocide. The injustices and crimes against ethnic groups and people of color silenced. Politics as usual.

sjcolorwing@hotmail.comNOSPAM! ">SCJ

15. 16-10-2007 14:37

armenian genocide

el genocidio armenio es real crime contra el pueblo armenio.turquia no va escapar a la hora de justicia.I COLD OLL THE WORLD RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE!

armes1998@yahoo.esNOSPAM! ">ashot

16. 18-10-2007 01:09

watch this watch that!

yeah! I watch this, watch that so I know the truth. I dont need data, all I need is gossib, 12 b&W photoz and sad stories. Truth can be written any way we like now.

alibey20@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">alibey

17. 18-10-2007 04:18

Scholars indicate Armenian Genocide

In an age of Bush-ite lies and spin people naturally get cycnical about the "truth".

Rule of thumb - always remain sensibly sceptical but on matters of great import such as genocide, climate change, threats to society etc turn to the world's most outstanding scholars.

Thus the Nobel Prize Committee in its recent award to the IPCC and Al Gore agreed with the greatest scientists in America and the world, the premier scientifc organizations in America and the World etc and IGNORED the dishonest, corrupt, climate criminal lying of the Bush-ite flat-earther climate change deniers.

Ditto in relation to the Armenian Genocide - world's leading Genocide scholars recognize the Armenian Holocaust as an Armenian Genocide involving 1.5 million people murdered out of a population of 2.1 million - but this is denied by Genocide Committers and Deniers Turkey, Israel and Bush US.

The Armenian Holocaust (1.5 million victims) is unequivocally described as the Armenian Genocide by top world genocide authorities e.g. Australian genocide scholar Professor Colin Tatz who headed up a Centre for Comparative Genocide Studies at Sydney’s Macquarie University indictaes 12.5 million deaths and is unequivocal in his condemnation of Turkish denial of the Armenian Genocide (see:
link ), QUOTE: "The Turkish denial [of the Armenian Genocide] is probably the foremost example of historical perversion. With a mix of academic sophistication and diplomatic thuggery -- of which we at Macquarie University have been targets -- the Turks have put both memory and history into reverse gear."

The classic book on genocide by Frank Chalk. and Kurt Jonassohn (1990), The History and Sociology of Genocide. Analyses and Case Studies (Yale University Press, New Haven). The authors indicate 1.5 million deaths and state unequivocally in their preface to the chapter of the Armenian Genocide that, QUOTE :“The genocide of the Armenians in 1915 was the first of the modern ideologically-motivated genocides”.

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/1375/247/

gpolya@optusnet.com.auNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya

18. 18-10-2007 17:32

armenian genocide

the recognizing armenian genocide is crieting animal sentiments beetwin the the turks like their anestores.the turks can repit this in now days without proplem.

nairi4321@yahoo.esNOSPAM! ">gagik

19. 25-04-2008 22:37

armenian genocide

this cirminal MAFIA genocidal us client regime WILL fall. the turkish asses will be hauled before world court to be FINALLY gudged for the crimes they committed against ALL peoples.

jkrthh@yahoo.comNOSPAM! ">jack

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