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by Jacob G. Hornberger

I don’t know anything about Virginia Republican Delegate Jeffrey Frederick’s educational background but based on his understanding of economics, my hunch is that he is a product of public schools and state-supported universities, many of which, as a general rule, teach absolute nonsense in their economics classes.

Exclaiming against illegal immigrants in Prince William County, Virginia, where government officials have imposed a severe crackdown on illegal immigrants, Frederick said,

“They want to come here and take what they can and send it home and leave when they can — take billions of dollars out of our economy and send it to Central and South America.”

Even for a nation that is accustomed to hearing inanities erupt from the mouths of politicians, that is one inane, ludicrous statement.

Frederick’s contention seems to be that by sending the money they earn back to their families in Latin America, illegal immigrants are stealing money from the U.S. economy and thereby hurting America.

Consider this article that Reuters published this past Tuesday. It tells about American farmers who have moved their farm operations into Mexico. One reason they have abandoned the United States for their farming operations is that thanks to the U.S. government’s war on immigrants, there is a shortage of workers to pick their crops. For example, two years ago farmer Larry Cox left 750,000 pounds of tomatoes unpicked on his California farm because he couldn’t find the workers to harvest them. Cox now hires hundreds of Mexican workers on his Mexican farm.

What does Cox do with the profits he is earning on his Mexican farm? Well, the article doesn’t say but one can safely assume that he sends the money back to the United States. Does that mean that Cox is a thief? Well, under Frederick’s fascinating economic reasoning, we would have to conclude that he is. After all, isn’t Cox stealing from the Mexican economy and sending the money back home in the United States? Even worse, I’ll bet that Cox has absolutely no intention of permanently settling in Mexico, that he fully intends to retain his U.S. citizenship, that he continues to say the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag, and that he continues to root for American sports teams.

When you stop to think about it, under Frederick’s interesting reasoning on economics, a massive amount of stealing is taking place every day in Virginia. After all, think about the amount of money that Virginians spend on out-of-state items. All that money being stolen from the Virginia economy by being sent out of state. Somebody ought to tell the Virginia Attorney General so that criminal indictments can quickly be secured. Gosh, if we’re not careful all that trade could steal every bit of money out of the Virginia economy. Start pacing the floors!

Maybe Congress ought to pass a law that encourages foreigners to buy products from America but prohibits Americans from buying anything from overseas. And why stop there? Why not state laws in all 50 states encouraging people to sell things to people from other states but prohibiting them from buying things from people from other states? And why stop there? Why not do the same at the county level to stop people from sending their money outside the county?

If an American farmer wishes to hire Mexican workers on his farm in California, that is his business. If an American farmer wishes to own a farm in Mexico and send his profits back to the United States, that is his business. If a Mexican immigrant enters in a labor relationship with an American employer and wishes to send his money back to his family in Latin America, that is his business. The key to prosperity and harmony among the people of the world lies in the freedom of people to do whatever they want with their own money, including buying and selling goods and services with anyone they want anywhere in the world. That’s what freedom, free enterprise, and economic prosperity are all about.

Mr. Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom Foundation.


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1. 19-02-2008 19:24
Product of Public Schools and Statesuppo
Mr hornberger has a habit of making some general negative unbacked remarks in his statement. "I don’t know anything about Virginia Republican Delegate Jeffrey Frederick’s educational background but based on his understanding of economics, my hunch is that he is a product of public schools and state-supported universities, many of which, as a general rule, teach absolute nonsense in their economics classes." Otherwise a logical article. This is just a flat discredit to Mr. Hornberger and trys to discredit the public school education curriculum. My experience of attending school in various parts of the U.S. is that they are not alike, required curriculum varied as also in my opinion the teachers quality. Teacher quality maybe irrelevant. Yet, he dose not know Frederick's education, nor evidently the diversity of standards across the country to make such a blatent statement.  
He makes some good points on immigration, especially since many companies moved in and out of Mexico and Latin America then quickly to Asia countries, to exploit their even cheaper labor. Capitalists world is flat, free world economics, and the exploitation of labor, leaving many high and dry and behind. As in referance to the last paragragh of his article, we see proof that only thru the education of the lower working class can these acts of wealthy exploiting the have nots, can a closing of the gaps and a more fair redistribution of wealth be achieved thru out the world, not just in Mexico and Latin America. We see evidence of this in Venezuala where the literacy rate of the poor has improved thru reforms, and an improved social capitalist economy, as just a minor example and still in its infancy program. The immigration issue, is an issue, currently being used to scape goat in stressed economic times to take the eye off the real purpitrators and the war, Corporate CEOs, corrupt unions favoring the corporation and their own self made buracracies betraying the labor worker. This is what happens when free enterprize goes unregulated by corrupt goverment bought and paid for by the very same free interprize, and a lethargic babyboomer populace. Fascism emerges and a war of oil theft to control the free markets and spread seudo democracies. Dispite no child left behind, the south that lagged behind the rest of the US in education in the past has had it literacy rate improved. Alabama and Mississippi come to mind. Libertarian Ron Paul would like to return, legalizing in home schooling under the name of freedom, which has a logistic to it. But will it promote the return to an aphartied south, and lowering of the literacy rate?
2. 20-02-2008 03:17
Hornberger doesn't know what he's talk
Mr. Hornberger doesn't know much of anything, and his opinion puff piece on illegal aliens (they are not immigrants) illustrates his level of ignorance, or willing indifference.  
 
Firstly, illegal aliens (it is the correct legal term) come to the US, and have been proven to displace American citizen workers, who employers fire so they can pay cheaper wages and evade workplace laws, etc.. Because of the cheaper wages, they and their corporate bought and paid for lobby threatens states with lawsuits if they do not provide these illegal aliens with welfare benefits, food stamps, housing subsidies, free health care and many other benefits that is illegal for them to obtain. They then live on the taxpayer, and use the money they earn to send back to their home countries as remittances. These welfare benefits, et al.. end up being a corporate/business subsidy, corporate welfare, that citizens who are denied jobs with American wage standards end up being stuck paying for. 
When citizens work, they spend their earnings in their local area, which profits local and other businesses, improving their bottom line and creating new jobs, for other citizens. They do not require welfare benefits, they contribute to their city, state and federal government through the tax rolls. This creates a strong and healthy economy. What\'s more, gainfully employed citizens earning a wage standard are able to support their children, keep a roof over their heads, food on the table. Those children do better in school, are healthier, mentally as well as physically. They have hope for their own future. 
 
Illegal aliens use welfare subsidies to live on here, which increases the tax burden, they pay no tax for the most part, and if they do it is very little. They steal identities which harms innocent citizens. The monies they earn are not spent in the local economy, they are sent out of the country, which is spent in Mexico, benefiting it\'s economy. Now, I can\'t claim to know what school (or which planet it was on, or what Hornberger was smoking while at said school) Hornberger attended, but he reveals his complete lacking in any understanding of basic economics. The illegal alien situation might profit the wealthiest, it harms the majority of American citizen workers, it causes their taxes to rise, it overburdens the system, it causes them to lose their jobs and/or have their wages drop. It also causes the cost of housing to skyrocket. 
 
Perhaps Mr. Hornberger shoud tell his Canadian government that they over reacted to the 200 illegal aliens from Mexico who entered Canada, and within a few weeks had cost the government upwards of half a million dollars in tax dollars.  
 
The costs to states who are overburdened with illegals are enormous. Illegals cost Californian taxpayers billions of dollars per year. 
 
Reuters is a media outlet that reports on a narrow focus, specifically on what profits the corporate elite. It has a bias. What the article didn\'t report was that for decades American farmers utilized a visa program for farm workers. They were obliged to pay them a good wage and provide housing.  
 
We have laws to protect our citizens, and our nation, which is our right. Has Mr. Hornberger taken on Canada\'s immigraton laws, which from what I have read are far more stringent than American immigration laws. 
Two years ago, some farmers got it into their heads that if they fired their legal migrant workers, and hired illegals they\'d make more profit. Then they started screaming that they needed to hire illegals because there weren't enough legal migrants. Food prices wen farmers hired legal migrants were low, our food supply was better quality and we didn\'t have the e-coli and salmonella outbreaks. Since they started hiring illegals, food prices have skyrocketed and we have had at least 30 outbreaks of contaminated fruit and vegetables, children have died as a result. We have not had crops rotting in the field, but farmers have had problems keeping the illegal aliens they hired to stay working for them. 
 
Unlike the legal migrants they used to hire, the illegals come and stay for a week or two, and then run off to get better paying jobs in construction or other jobs. Taking more work from working poor American citizens. Legal migrants were good, reliable workers who would come, work and then go back to Mexico, knowing full well that they would have those same good paying jobs again.  
 
The illegals the farmers want, keep leaving, then the farmers cry for more. 
 
The few farmers who have moved operations to Mexico do so believing they will get rich quick. That this will reduce their costs, they also are then able to use pesticides that are outlawed in the US, which makes those fruits and vegetables unsafe to eat. From what I have read, these farmers won\'t be staying long in Mexico as farmers, because Mexican farmer are complaining to their government about it. The Mexican government will soon force them out and they\'ll be back to square one, and all because they were greedy, looking to turn a fast buck. 
 
The beef recall from a meat processing company in California some of you in Canada might have read about or seen reported on television, where the Humane Society videotaped sick and injured cattle being abused and tortured, the workers who were doing that, were illegal aliens. 
 
Again, if Mr. Hornberger believes illegal aliens should be able to enter a country and no one should be able to complain about it, he should start bringing them to Canada, and imposing that burden where he will have to pay for it, then he can offer an opinion.
jenn@tmok.comNOSPAM! ">Jenny
3. 20-02-2008 12:23
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Quote:
 
Firstly, illegal aliens (it is the correct legal term) come to the US,

 
 
What terminology is that? 
Illegal aliens in oppose to legal "aliens"? If latter are legals how come still are aliens?
Shahram
4. 20-02-2008 21:55
Quatamala, Panama, Chile, Argentina bloo
There shouldn't be a border and our rise was due to their repression and goverments over throw. Have an issue with the noun aliens for illegal immigrants. One because they are human beings not alien creatures from another planet. In response to the claim they pay little or no taxes. They surely put some $ back into the economy. Only if they are being paid in cash, some large companies may have problems with this. The report I read yesterday 2-19-08 at WSWS.com states two men were fired who were in the video displaying questionable technics on the animals. I watched both videos and read the humane society sites page no mention of illegals. Maybe they were trying to be humane to the aliens and not mention their origin. They had charges brought against them, the exactness of those charges was not disclosed, only if it was a misdemeanor or felony. No mention of them being illegal, one of the two arrrested was a manager. Taxes are taken out of their pay checks, not saying this to justify welfare benifits. We should be going after the companies who are hiring them and raising the fines for those found hiring illegals. Other statement made on disease and prices sky rocketing are a bit exagerated, its not the illegals its the processing technics and employee training. After what the U.S. has done to the central and South Amercan peoples the last 30 years or so they deserve the money to send back home, for the dictators we have installed and supported in their countries. Like the FISA bill, this goverment lets the big guys go and continues to use the military option, (divide and conquer, on the masses). Jenny seems to be buying it all. Food prices are rising because of energy and war. Not if you shop at Wal Mart, oh, might get poisoned there. Mean while the genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan continues. And Lou Dobbs war on illegals continues to distract. The Chinese are buying to much oil from Iran, Darfur and Venezuala, what are we going to do about that. We continue to loose American jobs and we can't keep the aliens, they are heading for Canada.
5. 21-02-2008 12:39
why blame the immigrant?
It seems so convenient to blame everything on the \"illegal\" aliens. Look to the sources rather than to the \"slaves\". Accordingly, we can see the corporations doing business overseas and sending their monies home to the USA by the billions of dollars. Everyone residing within the USA pays taxes on just about everything they purchase; including aliens. I don\'t hear anyone complaining about the special retirement plans that the congresspeople have as compaired to the social security everyone else receives. Corporate businesses raise their prices supposedly because of oil prices and overhead costs that increase; yet the national minimum wage staggers to catch up with inflation. No one complains. The US has gone into other countries and massacres millions of people and devastate their countries, use up their resources; yet no one complains. The US has an asinine president set up by the corporate oligarchy and he still sits there while impeachment is tossed to the side by Pelosi; I hear no outrage. When the schools dummy-down the students like Miss Teen S. Carolina, and Jay Leno\'s interviewees of US Americans on the street, everyone laughs. But when \"illegal\" aliens replace workers that don\'t want those menial jobs because it\'s beneath them; then I hear from those that are indignant that \"illegal\" aliens are taking away the jobs noone else wants to begin with. Everyone is pushing their kids to go to college; they are over-qualified to do those jobs. What a wacked-up world we live in!
6. 27-02-2008 22:53
Rubbish
What a rubbish piece! Mr. Hornberger castigates Del. Frederick's education, which he freely admits he knows nothing about. However, had he known Frederick's educational background, he might have had a tougher time constructing this simplistic, liberal puff piece: Jeff Frederick received a double-major in policical science AND ECONOMICS from Emory University in Atlanta, GA (most certainly - for better or worse - not a public school). Further, he is a small business owner who understands the practical importance that his education in economics provided him. 
 
That Mr. Hornberger found an exception to the rule (this Cox fellow who moved to Mexico) does not effectively negate the point that Del. Frederick makes about $ being earned in VA but not being spent there. It's actually very easy to understand how this can cause strain in a state's economy.
AMK

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