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Please Vote for Obama in November
by Alex ThurstonImage
http://www.theseminal.com/

The wing of the Republican Party that is dissatisfied with both George Bush and John McCain has swung back into view recently. Dedicated, activist supporters of Ron Paul are "quietly [plotting] GOP convention revolt against McCain," the LA Times' blog tells us. The next battleground after their "stunning success in Nevada," DailyKos' McJoan says, is Idaho, where Paul supporters are attempting to take over the state level GOP committee.

If is followers are organized enough, they might be able to pull off a repeat of Nevada and possibly throw a monkey wrench into the downticket races. Both Bill Sali, Idaho's first district represenative, and Jim Risch, current lieutenant governor and the party establishment's heir apparent for Larry Craig's seat, have primaries. Risch, in fact, has seven of opponents, a few of them the run-of-the-mill Idaho Republican kooks (including the Californian who has never been to Idaho), and a few of them fairly serious and committed.

A srious revolt by Paul's people, should it trickle down the ticket, might give Risch a bit of a scare in his march to the nomination. Once he gets that nomination (and he almost certainly will) he's going to have to contend with one of two Independent challengers: the elk rancher who has made it his goal in life to harrass Risch (so much so that he decided to run as an Independent, to up his chances of being on the general election ballot), and Pro-Life, a Ron Paul supporter), who has made it his goal in life to be on the Idaho ballot every two years. Is any of this enough to really endanger Risch or McCain in getting their respective nominations? Highly unlikely, but it could make things a little more fun to watch.


The GOP brass begged Barr not to run. And Sean Hannity's complete freak out on this clip shows you just how spooked the wingnuts are over this.

Make no mistake: this is a huge blow to the Republicans, who are already fighting with one arm tied behind their backs thanks to Dubya, Iraq, the economy and Dubya.


I think all this is not just cause for progressives to laugh scornfully at a divided GOP, but also a call for frank dialogue about our country's future. Having battled a lot with Paul supporters on the pages of this blog I believe that some of them - not all - genuinely have a vision for this country. Though it is a powerful one, I do not agree with it. Nonetheless, I respect their urge to change their party from the inside, and I have done my best to understand their leader's appeal.

But to Paul supporters, libertarians, and other unhappy Republicans, I have a request to make: vote for Barack Obama this fall. If your efforts bear fruit, and you can weaken McCain, great. Thank you. But don't cast your vote for Bob Barr or write in Ron Paul on your ballot in November.

Why? Because a vote against McCain is essentially a vote for Obama, even if you cast it for another Republican. So give it to Obama directly, and give it to him as a mandate to end the war in Iraq.

We already had one Democratic president who won with a plurality (not a majority) of votes, twice, because of a third-party, right-leaning candidate. And what mandate did Bill Clinton have? What benefit did Ross Perot's supporters reap from their votes? Did they have grounds on which to hold Clinton accountable?

If you believe in smaller government, then give Obama a mandate to end the war. Let's elect him not with an electorate divided 43-37-19, as it was in 1992, nor even 49-40-8, as it was in 1996, but with a majority, a real majority, and one that signals to him that that majority wants the war to end.

Can we not start there? After the US leaves Iraq, you can go back to calling me a socialist, and I can go back to calling your free market beliefs naive and immoral, and whatever else we can come up with to throw at each other. But without leaving Iraq, you and I will be having those debates in a country that is poorer and weaker than it is now. A country where we worry more about our children's futures, about whether the bridges we drive across will hold up, about whether America is going to remain competitive in science and industry.

Let's not send a confused message to the victor of the presidential election this fall. Let's not send the message that we are a country divided and unsure about what it wants, simultaneously pulling in three, four, five directions. Let's send the message that the Bush years are over, definitively, and so is the war.

So do your worst to McCain. But if, in early September, we find that the choice still remains one of Obama versus McCain, then please give your support directly to Barack Obama. Give him that mandate, so that he'll know that on at least one issue - the biggest issue of our times, in my eyes - the majority of the country speaks with one voice.

Alex Thurston is currently a student in the Master's Program of Arab Studies at Georgetown University. He graduated from Northwestern University in 2005 with a BA in Religion. He can be reached at alex@theseminal.com


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1. 13-05-2008 15:21
Here we go with the strategy voting. Vote your conscience, vote your principles. Quacks telling you otherwise are the reason the elections are so completely meaningless in this country. 
 
Why in God's name would Paul supporter's, who if they truly share the principles of Ron Paul wouldn't dream of voting in anyone with a budget plan like Obama's, completely abandon their principles and vote FOR Obama, or even McCain?  
 
I just don't understand this ridiculous logic. This is on par with news "analysts" like Niel Cavuto trying to beat Ron Paul with the "who will you endorse" stick. Why would Paul endorse any of the candidates when their principles are completely polar opposite of Paul's? It's sad enough that we are given only two choices on election day, and then to have media junkies trying to consolidate the choices even further by making the idea of voting in favor of truly dissident views and principles an absurdity, it's just wonderful.  
 
Home of the "free" land of the scripted elections.
2. 13-05-2008 15:44
Don't vote for My candidate?
Asking me to not vote my concious is idiotic and part of the old politics that we are so desperately trying to do away with. Your ideations of how this shoudl turn out makes you part of the old school and a member of the broken system.  
If you actually understood Ron Paul or Bob Barr you would understand that voting for either McCain or Obama basically ends us up, as a nation, in the same place.... nowhere... The differences between the two main parties have become almost completely indistinguishable. By my voting for Ron Paul or Mr. Barr I am clearly sending a message. Others should do the same as well. I think the two parties should see just how fed up we are...regardless of who it help's in the short term. It's not the battle we want to win... it's the war. Rethink your politics... It is a new day in America.
lawton3@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Lawton LeSueur
3. 13-05-2008 15:52
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Asking me to not vote my concious is idiotic and part of the old politics that we are so desperately trying to do away with.

 
 
We are not asking you to vote for anyone. We do not endorse any candidate.  
 
All MWC has done is to report that there is such a notion among some of Dr. Paul supporters. (see the links)
Shahram
4. 13-05-2008 15:55
Why would we vote for Obama?
So why exactly should we vote for Obama again? He IS a socialist. His medical plans would bankrupt the country. He says he'll end the war, but he won't. He won't reduce the size of Government by eliminating horrible bills such as the Patriot ACT, FISA legislation and homegrown terrorism. He won't end the war on drugs although he (says) won't prosecute medical marijuana patients (which is a step in the right direction). 
 
Obama is really no different than any other president that we have had for the last 3 decades. 
 
Ron Paul is the only candidate who preaches \'real\' change. Obama has fooled many and in 3 years I predict that many people will be very unhappy with an Obama presidency.
5. 13-05-2008 16:00
Why would we vote for Obama?
Quote:
 
He IS a socialist

 
 
Wouldn't that be nice!!!
Shahram
6. 13-05-2008 16:06
Excuse me?
"But to Paul supporters, libertarians, and other unhappy Republicans, I have a request to make: vote for Barack Obama this fall. If your efforts bear fruit, and you can weaken McCain, great. Thank you. But don't cast your vote for Bob Barr or write in Ron Paul on your ballot in November." 
 
Well, it appears from the above quote straight out the article that the author is directly asking us to vote for Obama.
lawton3@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Lawton LeSueur
7. 13-05-2008 16:13
Excuse me?
Don't just read the marketing blurbs on this page, go to the bottom and click on the pdf symbol where it says 'read the plan' and get a few more vague details about Obama's plans for the middle east. How does he accomplish that if we have left Iraq? 
 
I am a Ron Paul supporter, and early on looked into Obama as a potential back up vote in November if Ron Paul doesn't run. I decided he was misleading his supporters with carefully chosen words both on interventionism/Iraq and on NAFTA type managed trade agreements that reserve all benefit of trade for multinational special interests at the expense of individuals and small businesses of all countries involved. 
 
Do you think he really plans to leave Iraq - and if so, do you think he plans to go further than the country next door? He has refused to rule out invading Iran, and...well, read the plan yourself and fill in the blanks. 
 
If you have facts I don't have, please cite them. Right now I think Obama is more a globalist than all of them. And since I think individuals are best represented at the local level where individuals can impact policy, I'm not in favor of that.
8. 13-05-2008 16:14
Excuse me?
Sorry! forgot to paste the link: 
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
spinnikerca
9. 13-05-2008 16:15
Don't hold your breath...
I can't speak for all Ron Paul supporters but I personally will never cast a vote for Senator Obama. If you are asking Ron Paul supporters to support Obama, you clearly know nothing about Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants less government and less spending. Hello?
merlinus99@yahoo.comNOSPAM! ">Mike in Boston
10. 13-05-2008 16:25
re=Lawton LeSueur
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Well, it appears from the above quote straight out the article that the author is directly asking us to vote for Obama.

 
 
Well, if you read the next paragraph it does make sense.  
Quote:
 
Why? Because a vote against McCain is essentially a vote for Obama, even if you cast it for another Republican. So give it to Obama directly, and give it to him as a mandate to end the war in Iraq.

 
 
No matter who you vote for, any vote not for McCain is for Obama.
Shahram
11. 13-05-2008 16:34
Re=Shahram
I read the entire article. it is something I learned to do before I voice my opinion.  
 
it is old politic's to vote the way you are talking about. If I do not speak my mind and vote my concious then I dissappear as a support for my cause. I want us out of Iraq just as much as the rest of us. I feel Iraq was a totally unjust war. I even know the articles that must be met to wage a just war.  
 
I am not voting for a candidate that I do not believe in period... even if, in the short term, he gets elected because I weakened my parties nominated candidate. Between Obama, McCain, and Clinton there are hardly any differences so no matter who is elected there will be little difference. I am in this as a marathon... A national restructering of American and our government. I want our country to be constitutional again. I want my rights as layed out by our founding fathers. I hate the war in Iraq. Don't get me wrong. But voting for someone I don't agree with is not going to get mine or others message out there that a revolution of reform is coming. 
 
If you really wanted out of Iraq and truly want change in our government you would ally with us, embrace our politics, and help us move this country forward to a place where we , as a nation, lead by example as a torch of peace and prosperity.
lawton3@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Lawton LeSueur
12. 13-05-2008 16:34
wow...
This article is truly a rediculously thinly veiled attempt to further erode our voting process. Read Ron Paul's best selling book (it's the only unbiased source for his ideas) and decide for yourself where to cast your vote. Really, this article is more propaganda than professional journalism...unbelievable...
13. 13-05-2008 16:41
You clearly don't understand Conservati
You clearly don't understand Conservative Republicanism/Ron Paul/or his supporters. Why would we vote for Obama, or any democrat? They're the exact opposite of what we believe in. I'm not voting for McCain either... but I'd rather write in Ron Paul or vote for the Libertarians/Constitution Party before I vote for Obama. Just because he says he's against the war doesn't make me want to vote for him. More spending, more of the same foreign policy (remember the comments on Pakistan. I don't think we should police the world/invade countries and what not, and that goes for ALL countries). See, Ron Paul supporters are against the establishment politics, against the empire-building, etc. etc. Obama is just a new face for more of the same. He voted for more spending for the war, he voted to renew the Patriot Act, he's a member of the CFR (I don't care if the 'theories' about them are true or not, they undermine American sovereignty/the people by trying to influence government policy. I don't trust secret groups either, I want loyalty to the country, the people, and the Constitution). He plans on expanding the budget, he has no plans to address the dollar crisis. To 'fix' the economy he is only offering more regulation, more of the same, the exact things that have gotten us in the mess in the first place. I could go on and on... but I guarantee you, Ron Paul, and his supporters will neither endorse or vote for Obama, not now, not ever, not unless he changes his views.
14. 13-05-2008 16:42
re=Lawton
Quote:
 
If I do not speak my mind and vote my concious then I dissappear as a support for my cause.

 
 
I truly respect that. All the power to you.
Shahram
15. 13-05-2008 16:52
you're on crack
We don't vote against people, we vote for America. That means voting for Ron Paul. We don't sell our souls like the rest of America, by picking a "winner" who will make us all lose. 
 
We're not in this for Ron Paul, like you all for Obama. We actually know WHY we support who we support, what he'll do, why he'll do it and he's not even that smooth. 
 
Sorry, we're just not lemmings. Which means we wont vote for a democrat, and it means we wont vote for Obama. We actually THINK instead of deveolope crushes. 
 
We don't see this as voting for the most popular kid into Student Body President, like the rest of you do. We vote for the smartest kid who understands the principles this nation became great on. 
 
Obama only understands what's wrong, has no clue what so ever on how to fix it. For problems and upbeat talking, go to Obama, For change, vote Ron Paul.
16. 13-05-2008 16:59
Freedom!
If we go socialist, what was the point of the Revolutionary War? Have you forgotten why we are hear and what made us great?  
 
You can't have socialism and freedom. They are totally incompatible. I wish all you socialists would just move somewhere where people live like that. We\'ll let you back in once you understand the error of your ways.
freedompundit@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Freedom Pundit
17. 13-05-2008 17:27
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You can't have socialism and freedom

 
Yes and Europe does not exist
Shahram
18. 13-05-2008 17:41
re=shahram
Free Europe doesn't exist. You've been duped kiddo. Europe is not Utopia and the citizens do not like the EU. Socialism is broken and there is not logical argument for it. There are emotional arguments for it, which can all be discredited with logic. Bringing Socialism to America on purpose is as perverted as child molesting. 
 
Watch this and see what you think of it: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVeMBNB0cII
19. 13-05-2008 17:49
Update for the un educated
Ok, first of all, Europe is not a country people. It is a continent which is made up of countries. 
 
Given that. I am not anti socialist. I am pro democracy. Other countries and other governments are not my concern. I just want America to be set back on the path that was laid out for us over 200 years ago. 
 
Our country was founded as a Republic based on Freedom. To steer away from that ideology changes everything. Be it Communism, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Monarchism, or a dictatorship. They are not part of our Countries long written plan.
lawton3@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Lawton LeSueur
20. 13-05-2008 18:01
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Free Europe doesn't exist.

 
 
And you compare that to the "freedom" in US? 
This is not based on logic, it is based on your emotion without the benefit of intellect
Shahram
21. 13-05-2008 18:26
re=shahram
Im not comparing freedom. Freedom is not subjective. Your insult is to create anger, another emotion, another tool for socialists to use against people who aren't. 
 
Free Europe doesn't exist because Europeans are not free. 
 
Free does not mean you have health care, free means you regulate yourself. 
 
Americans tried to secure that freedom by having the people regulate the government. That dream is dying. Socialists would have the government regulate the people.
22. 13-05-2008 18:40
Obama Supporters...
...prepare to be disappointed. Obama is no more anti-War than Bill Clinton was. He might not have supported the Iraq war, but he supported the mess in Bosnia, and all other UN-sanctioned police actions. Early in his campaign, he backed up bashing of the Iraq war with promises to greatly expand the war against the Taliban, including a Pakistan invasion. That doesn't even touch Obama's horribly dangerous economic views. He will damage what is left of the domestic economy. A vote for Obama is a vote for the policies that were rejected in 1980, and are being rejected in Europe and Asia as we speak.
weslinder@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Wesley Linder
23. 13-05-2008 18:43
Obama Supporters...
Dear Obama supporters,.. .wake the f*ck up! You're being duped! 
 
He talks a good game, but his voting record in the Senate has been nearly identical to Hillary's. He voted to fund and prolong the war. He voted against civil liberties by backing the renewal of the Patriot Act. 
 
If you want your personal liberties back, restraint on government, end to illegal wars, fiscal sanity,..if you want REAL CHANGE,... 
 
VOTE RON PAUL!!!
24. 13-05-2008 18:46
rhys
You are using "You've been duped kiddo" and I'm the one who insult you? 
 
I simply indicated that there are countries (all over Europe) which people enjoy more freedom by any definition that you and I in US of A.
Shahram
25. 13-05-2008 19:00
rhys
Yeah vote for Obama so he can get us out of Iraq and into another needless war in Darfur :roll
26. 13-05-2008 19:05
Re=rhys
"there are countries (all over Europe) which people enjoy more freedom by any definition that you and I in US of A." 
 
You got that right brother and it is shameful. We surrender Freedom in the name of Security. We surrender Freedom over fear. Our lack of courage is exactly what has caused our Government to gain it's power over us.  
It's not a conspiracy, it is a fact. We, as Americans, as a free society, have less freedom than any comparible Country abroad.
lawton3@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Lawton LeSueur
27. 13-05-2008 19:18
Freedom Index
By objective measures, only Ireland is more free than the United States in Europe. Switzerland was, but with more nationalistic policies and closer alliance with the EU, they've fallen off. 
 
Others more free than the US: Singapore, Hong Kong, New Zealand, and Australia.
Wesley
28. 13-05-2008 19:18
Freedom Index
You all talk of how we have less freedoms (which is a dubious statement) but then ask me to support Obama and socialism to further us down the road to serfdom? 
 
informing you that you've been duped is no insult. 
 
I'm voting Ron Paul
29. 13-05-2008 19:26
re
I don't think anyone has suggested that you support socialism. For that at lest you must posses the basic knowledge about socialism and it's application to a free and a just society
Shahram
30. 13-05-2008 19:44
re
I've read marx, lennon, misses, hayek and others from both ends of the spectrum. I've come to learn there is no application for socialism to a free and just society. It is a means of transferring political power to the few wealthy enough to control the centrally planned economy. The very problems with society that you wish to solve with socialism are only exasperated with it. 
 
The real solution to our social problems is found within Ron Paul's "The Revolution: A Manifesto", not the "Communist Manifesto". 
 
However, you've again insulted me. Insisting I don't even have a basic knowledge of socialism when I have a very extensive knowledge of it and it's opponent. 
 
That's all socialism has going for it, insulting her opponents to victory over humanity. 
 
Try to frame us as bad people or unintelligent or uneducated for not being socialist. In fact, the most intelligent people are avid anti-communists. The most intelligent SOUNDING are however, communists... which poses a big problem for people who are more emotional then logical. 
 
Unfortunately for society, it;s easy to play people's heart strings. Like the old Christian saying goes, even the Devil can quote scripture for his own gain.
31. 13-05-2008 20:07
re
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Try to frame us as bad people or unintelligent or uneducated for not being socialist. In fact, the most intelligent people are avid anti-communists

 
 
And this has anything to do with socialism how? Then you take that as an insult when one says you lack the basic understanding of socialism.
Shahram
32. 13-05-2008 20:53
re
"Yes and Europe does not exist" 
 
-facetious 
 
"without the benefit of intellect" 
 
-suggesting I don't have the benefit of intellect 
 
"For that at lest you must posses the basic knowledge about socialism" 
 
-you're implying that I just go around talking about things for which I have no knowledge. 
 
"And this has anything to do with socialism how? Then you take that as an insult when one says you lack the basic understanding of socialism." 
 
-facetious justifications... you know it has to do with socialism in that I used your behavior as an example of socialist idealogical tactics. 
 
So maybe you didn't insult me as much as you were insulting and dismissive of my intellect. 
 
I tried to spell out why I can't support Obama. You subtly implied I'm not smart enough to keep up with your enlightened socialism. I don't know if you did it on purpose, but it is the run of mill socialist rhetoric to do such things as you did.
33. 13-05-2008 21:25
re
I apologize, that was not my intention. 
 
Clarification 
 
1-It is possible and happens for an intelligent person to make an emotional statement without the benefit of intellect (which undoubtedly he posses) 
 
2- I am neither supporter of Sen. Obama nor accept that he or any of his ideas is based on socialism. 
 
3- Socialism and Communism is not the same ideology
Shahram
34. 13-05-2008 22:13
re
cool. point taken. 
 
communism is fast acting socialism. 
 
I think a great many of Obama's idea's are slightly less offensive than socialism, but defiantly based on it's model of social justice and social intervention. Which is opposed to individual justice and local intervention.
35. 13-05-2008 23:25
Sorry Charlie - - I mean John.
To Mr. McCain, the gentleman who with a smirk on his face told Ron Paul, "We'll miss you" when Paul was excluded from a debate when polling higher than other GOP candidates, all I can say is if you really wanted Ron Paul supporters' votes, you pulled a monumentally boneheaded blunder there, John. We'll miss you in the White House.
thirty3na3rd@voyager.netNOSPAM! ">Darryl Schmitz
36. 13-05-2008 23:32
Sorry Charlie - - I mean John.
Whew! And it got so off topic, so into--to use commonplace modern youthful lingo--personal slams. This is really great dialogue. And it gets us...where?
37. 14-05-2008 00:25
This idot doesn't get it!
Alex, I will not vote for the socialist Obama or the Facsist McCain Period! Either the LP or CP for me!
38. 14-05-2008 03:55
Dude get a life not a Obama
Dude you have your view and you are dead wrong. 
 
1) Obama is Jimmy Carter the 2nd! 
 
2) Obama has no committment to smaller government. 
 
3) Obama is going to do nothing to stop spending bloat as the Dems will flood him with Pork requests once he is seated. 
 
4)Obama has no Plan to fix the US dollar other than calling in the same people that Clinton and McCain will call. 
 
Your suggestion that I take the lesser of two evils is crap, and is the very poison that has led the American state of crushing inflation and sub-prime blow out. 
 
I think you are mercifully free of the ravages of Intelligence. Blog on you mighty word smith and may you be offered up first by to the God Obama worships.
39. 14-05-2008 10:26
I love the constitution.
"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion." -- Dwight Eisenhower  
 
 
"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom." -- Dwight Eisenhower
40. 14-05-2008 13:26
I love the constitution.
First, how did it come to be that those of a socialist bent refer to themselves as "progressive?" Extreme socialism--communism--has already utterly failed, and even moderate socialism on any large scale is either ruining the economies in which it is practiced or is subjecting the citizens of those economies to ruinous taxation. Such taxation deprives those citizens of financial, hence civil, freedom. There's nothing "progressive" about socialism--if anything, it's a Rousseau-like reversion of tribal communalism.  
 
Second, why in the world would I, a small-government, fiscally conservative, Ron Paul supporter vote for an intrusive-government, tax-and-spend, socialist like Barack Obama? 
 
No, Ron Paul still gets my vote, wasted or not.
henrymiller@nc.rr.comNOSPAM! ">Henry Miller
41. 14-05-2008 15:00
I love the constitution.
I will vote for Dr. Ron Paul. Yesterday Today and Always. Even if I have to make my own write in. "let it be writen, let it be done."
nichlas.silvin@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Nicholas Silvin
42. 14-05-2008 20:57
You Hit the only reason to vote Obama
I didn't find the article condescending or outrageous as some other RP supporters did. Indeed, the argument posted here is the only reason I can see myself voting for Obama. Unfortunately, I don't see the implied result as the actual result of an Obama mandate. Obama's mandate will rather be seen as a mandate for socialized medicine or foreign policy shell games (Darfur not Iraq) rather than just a repudiation on Iraq. I'll likely vote Baldwin in the CP unless there are drastic changes.
43. 15-05-2008 02:15
DONT YOU GET IT
They are Obama and McCain are both CFR... Don't you get it? 
I makes no difference. McSame gets an F from Gun Owners of America!!!  
How is this guy the Republican nominee? He took our 1st amendment rights with his finance reform crap (boy that has work well...) and he wrote the amnesty bill that the American people smacked down with a furry. Wake Up CFR wins if you vote for either one that is the way it always is.
jwerner929@aol.comNOSPAM! ">libertynow
44. 15-05-2008 02:23
Read Ron Paul's book
You want the scoop on what's really wrong with America? Read Ron Paul's book. You won't be disappointed. I've read it twice now.
45. 15-05-2008 03:47
clone
It doesn't matter who you vote for (or against) government always gets in anyway!
46. 15-05-2008 06:14
fixin's
Ya cain't fix no brokin masheen wit' no brokin parts.
47. 28-05-2008 06:50
fixin's
After 6 years in the military, after a whole year of donating, canvassing, and campaigning for Dr. Ron Paul, you have the NERVE to even squeak out a request for me to vote for OBAMA?  
 
You are some special kind of stupid! :(
Matthew
48. 02-06-2008 14:31
Fudd's First Law of Opposition
"If you push something hard enough it will fall over." 
-Fudd
dont_taze_me_bro@halebobb.comNOSPAM! ">Corn Pone and Fly Swatters
49. 12-06-2008 16:35
Fudd's First Law of Opposition
Vote for Obama instead of Ron Paul? The two aren't anything at all alike! Ron Paul want's a small, less intrusive government reigned in by the constution. From Obama's statements and voting record I question if he's ever even read the constitution! B.O.'s policies are for a much larger and more intrusive government then what we have now. Go ahead and vote for B.O. and we'll have an economic mess like we've never seen! McCain's admitted ignorance of economics gets plenty of media play but what is Obama's economic background? He has none. His resume is that of a community organizer, whatever that is.
shooter348@live.comNOSPAM! ">shooter348
50. 12-06-2008 16:42
CONSTITUTIONALLY RESTORED! ! !
YAY TO THE SUPREME COURT !!! Habeus Corpus Restored! !  
 
With Liberty, and JUSTICE for all...


 
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