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\"hm 
There was no Israel before 1948, ed. There would have been none without english & american \"friends\" that sent in exile millions of Palestines. Go study.\" 
 
Hmm 
http://encarta.msn.com/media_461532970/kingdom_of_israel.html 
 
Go study ;-)

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I hope they will kill you for that.

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nothing new here. Wake up USA

we have seen this in the book "The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians" (see Amazon). 
For extermination see the book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine ". 
If norwegian see the same info at http://informasjon.wordpress.com/slow-motion-holocaust/

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"baller 
Hmmm... is anyone forgetting that the nazi's organized the mass slaughter of humans? " 
 
No, and the Palestinians was eager to help. 
 
(footage of Mufti roughly 50 seconds in) Leader of the "palestinian" movement in the early to mid 20th century. Ally, recruiter and radio propagandist for the Nazi regime, this video shows the Mufti meeting with Hitler to arrange the creation of death camps in the Arab world which would be his tools for the extermination of Middle East Jews, pledge support of the Arab-Islamic Ummah to the Nazi regime and to discuss the progress of the Muslim Nazi [Handschar] divisions. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m2OzEvyrsw 
 
Great Arab Leaders I - The Palestinian Mufti and Hitler 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJvZURsXus

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These picktures seems to be pretty much the same. Jews are hated since the morning of time, maybe if they start behaving like humans and not like animals one day they will be respected. Are there a reason for the hate of jewish people since Jesus was born?

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Scary people here.

You people are sick in the head. Such hate for anyone is bad. I blame both sides. Both make mistakes. But must I choose a neighboor I would 100 times over pick a jew. He is close to my culture and truly wants peace. The muslim I cannot understand culturally and he hates my very existance. I think the equation is easy. I I must pick a side. I support Israel 100%. Casualties you will allways have. But this comparrisson is totally wrong. Its cant be compared this way. Yes the pictures are similar but the situation is not. This is like the old fashiom propaganda. I did not think people still fell for this. And when it comes to the UD employee spreading this he/she should get jail time. This is as of jan 1st 2009 illegal to spread in Norway. I think we have our first victim to this new law. A law introduced to curb our freedom of speach. It is a threat to the free world. It comes from the muslim world where freedom is just a word. I am not surprised the UD is passive to her/him. UD has no western employees. It is eaten up by muslims and now protected by the corrupted and criminal lawyer Abid Q Raya. A man that got his half uncle off the charges of killing his own daughter in an \"honor killing\". Abid Q Raya should be in jail. He is guilty and has publically stated he is in favour of Sharia Law.  
My culture was once part of Europe. I no longer recognize my herritage. Weak and defenceless agaist the muslim cruzade. I am angry with my brothers and sisters. For we will loose our cultural herritage and future prosperity if we give in to the muslim culture of destruction and cultural retardation of it people. Sharia in EU. I see it comming and we are to few to stop it as it is today. I would love a United states of Europe with all cultures accepting each other. We cant as long as this hate is ongoing. Hey people; assimilate, tollerate and negotiate.  
If that does not work. Lats do it the muslim way. Lets barter! I suggest we give hte muslim world all of Israel in trade Disney will recreate a better and safer Israel in EU. We call it Israel by Disney. All new and improved. Then we take all the jews into EU and return all arabs and muslims to Israel. Its a fair trade. We get knowledge and prosperity - They get sosical wellfare clients and trouble makers. End of discussion.

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\\\"Jens Hansen 
I hope they will kill you for that.\\\" 
 
Who are \\\"they\\\" and why do u hope so? 
;)

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Re: max.solheim - Censorship laws

\"This is as of jan 1st 2009 illegal to spread in Norway. I think we have our first victim to this new law. A law introduced to curb our freedom of speach. It is a threat to the free world. It comes from the muslim world where freedom is just a word.\" 
 
No Max you are definitely wrong. 
 
Almost all anti-free speech legislation comes from Jewish organizations directly in many cases, indirectly in some cases by means of lobby groups. 
 
Here is some documentation about different countries. 
 
Start with England, follow links at the bottom for USA, Canada, Holland and Ireland. (Perhaps it\'s different in Norway, but it seems very typical that the anti-muslim activist / Israel apologist, Hans Rustad (Jewish) declared that he is against freedom of speech concerning \'holocaust denial\'. He also deletes Jew critical posts on his blog, and bans the author) 
 
Jewish Involvement in Immigration and Hate Speech Legislation - Britain

http://blog.balder.org

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Re: max.solheim - Censorship laws

This is typical that Israel, in the name of protecting its citizens, kill civilians and call it \"right to deffend itself.\" As if only Israel has this right and not others. This rediculas. The Palestinian people has this right as well. Although Israel denis them this right. They call the palestinians who fight against them for terrorist. What about Israel itself, who kills children and civilians? Isn\'t it the great terror by itself? Let us ask ourselves for once: Why Israel does this? Is it really that only civilians in Israel get killed? Every Israeli is a reserve soldier and not a civilian. Even the children they raise them to be soldiers and they teach them to hate and kill palestinians. There are a lot of examples and things to discuss. But it will take years to talk about it. And one more thing. The pictures shown are true and not false as some of you declare. Don't deny it.

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Re: max.solheim - Censorship laws

"Animal farm" of George Orwell explains what happens to people getting in power. History seems to repeat itself.

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Re: max.solheim - Censorship laws

To me it seems like there is a state that claims that their right to posess a certain area, beside their own claimed heritage,is granted through a UN resolution. 
When this state then neglect to fulfill later given UN resolutions, because they don't accept the authority of UN. 
Why not release them from obligations to ALL UN resolutions, including the one that originally gave them already inhabitated land?

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Re: max.solheim

max.solheim, you say that you support the jews 100% and that theyr culture is closer to ours, may be, but thats because they have been part of our and many others nations for decades. 
And yes, they were in many cases harassed and looked upon as "enemy of the state" (so much for close cultural ties...). 
But this is a conflict in the middle east, far away from our "festung Norge", and thus does not our views on "whos culture is closer to ours" make any sense. This is an area of the world where theyr culture is more related to arabic culture than norse/protestant christianity religion. 
And quote :"UD has no western employees. It is eaten up by muslims and now protected by the corrupted and criminal lawyer Abid Q Raya. A man that got his half uncle off the charges of killing his own daughter in an \"honor killing\". Abid Q Raya should be in jail. He is guilty and has publically stated he is in favour of Sharia Law"... where do you dig up this bullshit? A link to the Senior administrative staff of UD http://www.regjeringen.no/en/dep/ud/about_mfa/senior-administrative-staff-2.html?id=856. 
Can you find any non-ethnic norwegians ? 
And Abid Q Raya, who got his half uncle off the charges, hes a lawyer goddamnit. If his half uncle really is guilty in the murders, blame the court or the norwegian law , not the brilliant lawyer whos job is to clear his client of the charges, i say it again : its hes goddamn proffesion. 
Ill conclude this post with : " if i had to chose between Israelis, palestinians or mr.max.solheim, i would 100 times over pick BOTH the Palestinian AND the Israeli, max.solheim (and the likes of him)and his view on culture is light years away from my view on culture...

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Shame on Israel! 
The difference here is the use of pictures, from the second war they show teh execution of a policy of genocide, in the Gaza they show unforntunate sivilians caount in the midts of warefare, with the Israeli forces trying ot avoid it, and the Hamas hiding between the civilians.

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Shame on you, Brynjulv Haga. 
 
What you represent is the typical Norwegian conservative, and mostly insane, christians who cannot see that Israel, the people of God, ever make mistakes. 
 
Unfortunately you are not alone, but believe you me, we are many, many Norwegians who will fight you, who will tell the world what hypocrits you are and who will support the Palestinians right to a safe homeland! 
 
Again, shame on you, Brynjulv, you almost make me ashamed of being Norwegian.

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Difference between Palestinians and Jews

How many rockets did the jews send towards Nazi-Germany? How many terrorist actions did the jews perform in Nazi-Germany? Did the jews have an agenda stating as a goal the destruction of Germany?  
Even if the Israelis have committed injusticies against the Palestinensians (and no doubt they have), the current situation is in no way comparable to the situation og the jews in Nazi-Germany. 
 
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Difference between Palestinians and Jews

:cry :cry  
wtf is going on in peoples mind? 
children?? what did they ever do wrong?? 
they havent lived their life long enough to do anything wrong!! 
they are trusting us adults to take care and be the safe part of life!  
there are other ways to make problems go away,and killing eatchother is NOT the way to do it! 
i cry when i see the children suffer for the adults mistakes!! 
God help this people, and specally the childrens!!

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Difference between Palestinians and Jews

THE COMPARISON IS OBSCENE. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS. The JEWS MURDERED NEVER PRACTISED TERRORISM AGAINST GERMANY. They did not even preach the yihad against them. There are absent the photos of the Israeli victims of his attempts in buses, restaurants .. etc. Germany never offered them a country. The ideology most similar to the nazi, today, is the islamist one.

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Israelis kill 2,400 OPT kids annually

Well said, "girl 82" (post #65). 
 
Consult UNICEF data (see: UNICEF information by country) and you will discover that Apartheid Israel deliberately but passively murders 2,400 Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT) under-5 year old infants EACH YEAR - this estimated assuming from comparative data that 80% of the 3,000 annual under-5 year old Occupied Palestinian Territory infant deaths are AVOIDABLE and due to Occupier refusal to supply life-sustaining food and medical supplies as demanded by Articles 55 and 56 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War ( see: Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War). 
 
It can be similalry estimated that the Israelis passively murder a total of about 4,300 Occupied Palestinians EACH YEAR via deliberately-imposed DEPRIVATION (cf. 1 in 6 of the 5-6 million Jews killed by the Nazis in WW2 died from DEPRIVATION, according to top JEWISH historian Professor Sir Martin Gilbert). 
 
50% of the Occupied Palestinian Territory population are CHILDREN and 75% women and children. 
 
Yet the death toll due to Israeli state terrorism (Ralph Nader's terminology: State Terrorism Against Gaza) in Apartheid Israel's latest atrocity inflicted on Gaza (what Ralph Nader calls an "open air prison" and the Catholic Church and top US conservative Pat Buchanan call a "concentration camp"): as of Day 23 ( several days ago) over 1,310 Gazans killed VERSUS ZERO (0) Israelis killed by Gaza rockets in the previous year (n Israeli "reprisals death ratio" of INFINITY as compared to that of 10 ordered by Hitler and executed in the Ardeatine Massacre, Rome, 1944).  
 
Anyone who ignores, denies, excuses, minimizes, obfuscates, advocates, supports or is otherwise complicit in horrendous crimes against women and children (as in Apartheid Israeli state terrorism against the Gaza Concentration Camp inmates - or indeed against anyone) has crossed the line between decent Humanity and Nazi-style barbarism.

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Israelis kill 2,400 OPT kids annually

As a born again Christian clearly convinced the Bible is Gods word to us, it is clear that the Jews, his people will be pursecuted until the day Jesus comes back. But I also see from his word that we must pray for and support the state of Israels existence. Jesus was a Jew. All Jews will become born again before the time has come. How can you discuss with surrounding countries/populations who want to eliminate your country, who want the Jews removed from the Earth's surface? And these are facts, that many muslims have these thoughts, and Israel can unfortunately never rest in peace, there is always some people against them. And they have done absolutely nothing to deserve this except for being born Jew. Is this fair? The muslims have also the right to be there and to be treated fairly, but then stop the suicide bommings, putting your children as frotline so they are killed, stop the antisemitism in your countries. Stop declaring the holy war, stop claiming your religion is non violent. This is all not true. It is not the individual him/herself but the religion itself that is so dangerous. Have you seen a Jew or heard a Jew in Europe giving death threats towards muslims living here? Attacking or damging a mosque? Demonstrating and then destroying cars and windows? Have you seen a Jew or heard a Jew in Europe stating publicly racist comments re muslims? The answer is no. They are not provoking or using violence here at all, this is coming from the muslim side. And therefore for me there stops any discussion of who is right or wrong in Gaza. Imagine the situation would be different? How would they react do you think? Not as peaceful as the Jews I believe. May God bless and protect the Jewish people and the State of Israel.

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Israelis kill 2,400 OPT kids annually

hitler knew somthing i suspect. 
jews make me paranoid.

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please...

This is a pure propaganda. 
Actually, if I had something to compare here - it definitely was this propaganda in comparison to the Nazi propaganda.

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Thanks for posting the images!

Thank you for enlightening us with the pictures everyone is talking about!

http://steinhaug.minprofil.no/2009/01/hvor-er-bildene-vis-oss-e-posten/

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Thanks for posting the images!

RE:Najeh Haddad 
 
"Is it really that only civilians in Israel get killed?" 
 
No some soldiers get killed as well.  
 
"Every Israeli is a reserve soldier and not a civilian." 
Wrong 
"Even the children they raise them to be soldiers and they teach them to hate and kill palestinians." 
 
Like this? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNE__TiMZo 
 
"There are a lot of examples and things to discuss." 
 
Yes indeed ;-)

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Awesome piece of political artwork

It is ridiciolus how some people keep insisting that this genocide/massacre/warcrime is something the Palestiniens have brought onto themselves.. 
Israel used force to occupate, 
overtake and drive out the palestinians,so NOMATTER how many missiles og suicidebombs,it  
will always be a justified and fully legit fight from a people who will no bend over or let bygones be bygones..And why should they...No many of us would either.. 
One have to be really bias,a rascist or even worse, to blame this patetic and very sad second holocaust on the Palestinians

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Onesided

First of all to compare Israel with Nazi Germany is crazy. If Israel was like Nazi Germany there would be no Palestinians left in Gaza nor in The West Bank. 
Next, I was wondering where the pictures are of the victims of the bus and cafe bombings carried out by the heroric warriors of Hamas and other fractions claiming to fight for the Palestinian people. 
Realisticly, the arab nations have never succeeded in defeating Israel so maybe instead of keep going down the track where they are going now, they should try to actually keep their word and control their people when a ceasefire has been established. 
Everybody seems to believe that it is ok to fire rockets into Israel and then scream and shout when Israel fires back! 
Israel exists, live with it because it will not change. 
Where are the Treblinka (2), Sorbibor and Belsez that would make it possible to compare Israel with Nazi Germany? 
These 3 camps were pure extermination camps killing thousands daily.  
To compare the two is just a farce! 
There are faults on both sides. Both sides bring up their children teaching them to hate the other so what else is new? 
There are victims on both sides!

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If you don't know history, this pictures is an exellent way to tell "true" lies about Holocaust.

http://www.husfilosofen.no

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Nazi = Israel

There is no difference in the way that Germnay treated jews in the 2WW and the way that Israel is treating palestinians today.  
 
Some of you say that the Jews did not launch rockets or blow them selfs up, you need to read history because this was the case in deed. 
 
This satetement is said by the founding father of the Israeli state: 
 
“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” – (David Ben-Gurion, May 1948. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar) 
 
Even before the abovementioned words were uttered by Ben Gurion, and before the establishment of Israel: terrorism, assassination and propaganda were the primary tools of the Jewish immigrants arriving from Europe and Russia. Ironically, many of them were fleeing persecution but upon their arrival they began to persecute another innocent nation! These Jewish (Zionist) terrorists organised themselves into groups and one of the earliest one was called the “Haganah”; its members included the likes of Yitzhak Rabin, Ariel Sharon and Moshe Dayan. From “Haganah”, the “Irgun” gang was formed by the more fanatical right-wing members; the group was later led by Menachem Begin. However, the “Irgun” gang also split in 1940; their off-shoot was called the “Lehi” also known by the British as the “Stern Gang”, named after its leader Avraham Stern.  
 
All of these terrorist groups terrorised the indigenous Muslim/Arabs, driving them out of their lands. This is the source of the problem, the root of the Arab-Israeli conflict: foreigners who have sought refuge in the land of olive (Palestine – “Bilad az-Zaytun”), turn violent on the indigenous population. These ungrateful Zionist terrorists also attacked the British occupational forces, despite the fact that it was the British government who facilitated their ‘settlement’ in these lands. They bombed King David Hotel, killing 91 people that comprised largely of British civilians. Menachem Begin of the Stern Gang was wanted by the British authorities for his criminal activities.  
 
After the establishment of Israel, the “Irgun” gang led by Menachem Begin became the right-wing Likud Party, while the “Haganah” terrorists and the criminal Stern gang integrated to form the Israeli Defence Force (IDF). Therefore, Israel is a terrorist state by its nature; its institutions were born out of the terrorism of terrorist groups and theft of Arab/Muslim lands. Israel continues to function in this mode, terrorising the region for the ultimate goal of building Eretz (greater) Israel. The map issued by Begin’s Irgun gang is proof of that vision of creating Eretz Israel, when Israel was not even born. Menachem Begin explicitly stated this in 1947: 
 
“Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel, all of it and for ever.” 
 
However, international situation prevents Israel from achieving this goal of building Eretz Israel immediately; this is a long term objective that is being undertaken with careful planning. To weaken the surrounding Arab countries is one essential milestone for achieving this objective. Thus, dismantling of Iraq, incursion into Syria and Lebanon, eventual annihilation of the Palestinians, preparing to attack Iran, Somalia and Syria, then eventually Saudi Arabia and Sudan, all aid that objective of building Eretz Israel, even though other factors are driving those events. Not surprisingly the fanatical neo-cons (Zionists) are the real architects of this aggressive US foreign policy that is design to weaken the Arab/Muslim countries. 
 
Eretz Israel is the goal, and terrorism is the method. It was the Zionists who introduced these methods, like the European colonisers introduced chicken pox to the peaceful native population in the Americas and Australia. Zionists even openly admitted of their intention of using terrorism, the aforementioned words of Ben-Gurion and the underground newspaper of the Stern Gang explicitly stated this: “Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can negate the use of terror as a means of battle.” After the birth of this illegitimate child called Israel, terrorism of groups and individuals was replaced by state-terrorism. 
 
However, since 1948, Israel has managed to portray itself as a victim of terrorism, instead of being the real perpetrator, while Israel’s victims have been systematically turned into terrorists. This reversal of the image was achieved primarily by the media-terrorists of the west, and this continues till today by their one-sided media coverage. Zionists of all colours to the government of Israel are given maximum air-time, while the Arab voices are given minimal time, if any at all.  
 
And I can keep on writing.... 
 
Please read history and then say your stupid opinion.

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The comparison is spurious at best. One can make this montage using photos of most conflicts. . . The main difference is that the people on the black and white photos died in the gas chambers while the "Palestinians" are mostly traumatised and live in abject poverty without freedom of movement.  
 
The prevalence for using emotionally charged expressions such as; "genocide", "massacre", "holocaust", "Nazis" exclusively regarding the Gaza conflict is sucking the very meaning out of these words. As a historian, comparing two completely different historical settings is considered rather pedestrian.  
 
All in all, I'm surprised that this tremendous amount of concern is thrown at this marginal conflict while the war in Congo lingers in obscurity. Three times the total amount of inhabitants of the Gaza-strip have been killed there.  
 
Where are the rallies and demonstration for their cause? Where are the cries for action and international condemnation? It is a rather telling example of the myopic and hypocritical nature of the global armchair-activists nature.

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Racist Zionists (RZs) & Nazis compared

Clearly the Nazi atrocities in continent-scale Nazi-occupied Europe (5-6 million Jews killed, with 1 in 6 dying from deprivation in the Jewish Holocaust and 30 million Slav, Jewish and Roma dead in the Holocaust as a whole) are vastly GREATER than the violent and non-violent Occupied Palestinian avoidable deaths of about 10,000 and 300,000, respectively (as compared to 2,200 Israelis killed by Palestinians, 1967-2009). 
 
However the common elements between Nazism in Germany and racist Zionism in Apartheid Israel include (1)obsessive racism, (2) war criminal invasion of other countries, (3) occupation of other countries, (4) devastation of other countries, (5) mass imprisonment of whole populations in concentration camps, (6) mass murder, (7) disproportionate reprisals death ratios, (8) genocide commission, (9) genocide denial and (10) fanatical LYING. 
 
The Nazi atrocity with which I am most familiar is the murder or 0.2-0.4 million Hungarian Jews (including most of my wider family) out of a population of 0.7 million Hungarian Jews in 1944-1945 (passively assisted by Zionist and pro-Zionist Churchill opposition to the Brand plan to save the Hungarian Jews: pro-Zionist Churchill and racist Zionists scuppered Brand plan to save Hungarian Jews ). Most of the survivors and their progeny fled Hungary and Europe post-war or later in 1956. The property of the survivors was confiscated by the Hungarian State (Fascist and Communist), this dispossession being recently endorsed by the EU to permit Hungarian entry into the EU. 
 
By way of comparison, the race-based , racist Zionist (RZ) Palestinian Genocide has involved 0.8 million Palestinian refugees in 1948; post-1967 excess deaths totalling 0.3 million; confiscation of most of Arab land, homes, villages, towns, and even cities (Jaffa, Acre and Jerusalem); 7 million Palestinian refugees today; and continuing ethnic cleansing and Nazi-style, civilian – targeting violence by Apartheid Israel with US, UK, White Australian and EU country support (see: Nazi Germany-Apartheid Israel comparisons. Israeli Enemy/Israeli death ratios exceed Nazi Enemy/Nazi death ratios ).  
 
That vastly more people have died in the horrendous, ongoing, US-backed Congo war (1960-1997 US-backed Mobutu era excess deaths 16.5 million; 1994-2009 civil war excess deaths about 13 million; see \"Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950: ) is essentially irrelevant to humane discussion of US-backed Apartheid Israeli atrocities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (except insofar as the US and its \"dirty work\" surrogate Apartheid Israel are involved).

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Racist Zionists (RZs) & Nazis compared

Well, the pictures are obviously different. The mocking Palestinians- victim of Arab strategy, they are put in camp because of Arab strategy, not because of Israel - are not about to die. Some die, but that is in a war- they die because they are used as shields for a fascist regime. I do pity the palestinians. They are used as victims by the people sho should instead have taken them in, ie the Jordanians, the Saudi-Arabians, and the Egyptians. And some more...

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Racist Zionists (RZs) & Nazis compared

These pictures and this [ http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html ] make some sense.

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Racist Zionist (RZ) Apartheid Israel LIE

Post #79 repeats 2 major racist Zionist (RZ) LIES - LIES that are rejected with documentation below.  
 
LIE #1 is that Occupied Palestinians in what the Catholic Church describes as the Israeli-guarded Gaza Concentration Camp (and one of the mostly densely populated places on the Planet yet being BOMBED by war criminal. quintessentially Nazi Apartheid Israel with 1,300 Gazans killed in reprisal for ZERO Israelis killed by Gaza rockets in the preceding year ) are there assertedly not because of \"Israel\" (!) but because because of Arab neighbors having not \"taken them in\" (!) - the TRUTH is that MILLIONS of Indigenous Palestinians expelled from and forbidden to live in their own country by the genocidal Nazi-style Apartheid Israelis have been taken in by Middle East Arab countries and other countries. 
 
The number of UN-registered Palestinian refugees by country as of 2005 were as follows (see: Palestinian refugee): 
 
* Jordan 1,827,877 refugees 
* Gaza 986,034 refugees 
* West Bank 699,817 refugees 
* Syria 432,048 refugees 
* Lebanon 404,170 refugees 
* Saudi Arabia 240,000 refugees 
* Egypt 70,245 refugees. 
 
There are currently 10.6 million Palestinians world wide - 1.5 million second class Indigenous Palestinian Israeli citizens under Nazi-style Apartheid Laws (their 2 major parties have been banned; forbidden to marry Occupied Palestinians; compelled like Jews in Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied Europe to carry Nazi-style race-specific ID ); 4 million Occupied Palestinians abusively imprisoned (now for over 40 years) in increasingly confined Concentration Camps or Bantustans; about 7 million Palestinian refugees in total, 4.5 million being registered with the UN) (see; Palestinian people).  
 
Despite 60 years of Nazi-style racist Zionist(RZ) ethnic cleansing the Indigenous Palestinian population of the Holy Land (5.5 million) is about 50% of the Holy Land Population (the other half are the Jewish Israeli colonists and their descendants who actively and passively KILL about 5,000 Occupied Palestinians (half of them INFANTS) EACH YEAR to maintain their evil, racist, Apartheid grip on the Holy Land that Jesus walked.  
 
In addition to carrying the HUGE refugee burden, the neighbours of Apartheid Israel have all suffered invasion, occupation and mass murder at the hands of the Nazi Israelis. Thus 1950-2005 avoidable deaths (excess deaths from deprivation) in countries variously invaded and occupied by Apartheid Israel total 24 million, the breakdown (expressed as a ratio of 1950-2005 excess deaths /2005 population in millions, m; * means occupation by a further foreign country in the post-1945 era) being Israel [0.095m/6.685m =1.4%] - Egypt* [19.818m/74.878m = 26.5%], Jordan* [0.630m/5.750m = 11.0%], Lebanon [0.535m/3.761m = 14.2%], Occupied Palestinian Territories* [0.677m/3.815m = 17.7%], Syria* [2.198m/18.650m = 11.8%], total = 23.858m/106.854 = 22.3% (see: Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950 ).  
 
LIE #2 is that \"they [Occupied Palestinians] die because they are used as a shield for Fascist regime\" . 
 
Whether you like them or not {I, for example am an agnostic Humanist] , religiously-oriented Hamas (Islamic in a Muslim country, like Christian Democrats in Christian Germany) was democratically elected in the 2006 \"elections\" held under Apartheid Israeli guns in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. In January 2006, Hamas won victory in the Palestinian parliamentary elections, taking 76 of the 132 seats in the chamber, while the previous ruling Fatah party took 43. In the absence of provision of life-sustaining requisites by the war criminal Occupier Apartheid Israel, Hamas is notable for attempting to provide social services in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (see: Overwheling democratic election landslide for Hamas).  
 
The Apartheid Israeli response was to arrest as many Hamas MPS as possible, impose a deadly blockade on Gaza and now attempt to kill the remainder by bombing, shelling and invading the Gaza Concenttion Camp - about 1,300 Gazans killed VERSUS ZERO Israeli deaths from Gaza rockets in the preceding year.  
 
The \"democratic Nazi\" US, UK, EU and war criminal, climate criminal, racist White Australia have declared democratically elected Hamas (76 seats) a \"terrorist\" organization and won\'t deal with it, dealing only with Fatah (43 seats) and racist Zionist, Nazi-style Apartheid Israel which is manifestly UN-democratic. 
 
Thus 2 Arab parties have 7 members of the 120 member Knesset (6% of seats despite representing 20% of the Israeli population who are Indigenous Palestinian) - but the racist Zionists have now BANNED these parties.  
 
Thus Wikipedia: \"The Knesset is due to be reconstituted following elections in February 2009. The composition of the Knesset is likely to change following a ban on the participation of the two Arab parties United Arab List-Ta\'al and Balad, by the The Central Elections Committee on the 12th January 2009\" (see: Knesset - Jewish Israelis ban Arab parties from Knesset) . 
 
Intra-national and international Sanctions and Boycotts are the only way to bring the quintessentially Nazi Israelis and their racist Zionist (RZ) and pro-Zionist backers to heel and to STOP the ongoing US-, UK-, EU- and racist White Australia-backed Palestinian Genocide. 
 
PERSONAL NOTE: I am morally OBLIGED object to the Nazi-style, indeed quintessentially Nazi, racist Zionist (RZ), Apartheid Israeli Palestinian Genocide (a) for fundamental anti-racist and humanitarian reasons and (b) because MY family was \"ethnically cleansed\" from Hungary in 1944-1945 by the Nazi Germans. OUR homes and lands are also still occupied by strangers c/- post-war Hungarian Governments, this racist THEFT having been recently retrospectively endorsed by the \"democratic Nazi\" EU to permit Hungarian EU entry.

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Racist Zionist (RZ) Apartheid Israel LIE

Post # 80 one more time 
 
"These pictures and this: Hitler's Jewish Soldiers make some sense."

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sit down - calm down

(':sigh') 
War is cruel - victims often innocent - comments fighting too - don't forget the history - Deir Yassin in 1948 to mention - and all the violence from both sides during this 60 years ! incompetent solutions ?

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WHAT GOES AROUND, WILL COME AROUND!!!

One Day .... and 2soon everything gotta change 4the best Inshalla!!! Hitler'd gone...and 2many unfair and cruel LEADERS .... who Loved controled us in everything!!! 
 
We live 2day and there are 2many other's, who we sould get rid off and wipe them from everywhere even the History!!! 
 
 
 
 
 
WE SHOULD STAND 4OUR RIGHTS as a human & help 2create peacful life for our kids....... every dark night has followed with bright sunny day with WIN!!

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Anti-Semitism???

Mr. Jonas Gahr Støre, Minister, 
Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 
 
Oslo, January 19, 2009 // 23th  
 
Ministry of Foreign Affairs distributes anti-Semitic propaganda 
 
Dear Jonas Gahr Støre. 
 
The Center against Antisemitism is appalled by the Foreign Ministry’s distribution of a collection of pictures which can only described as antisemitic propaganda. In the collection of images distributed today from the Foreign Ministry by an employee as an attachment to an e-mail, arranged images from the recent Israeli defensive campaign in Gaza have been synoptically linked to historical pictures from the Holocaust in such a manner that the Foreign Ministry is portraying the two events as being equivalent. 
The Center against anti-Semitism regrets that Norway’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is thus contributing to the intensification of anti-Semitic tendencies, which lately have been quite visible in the Norwegian media, and which have been reproved by both us and by international experts. We have shown the pictures in question to experts on the subject, and their unanimous conclusion has been that the Foreign Ministry, by this action has demonstrated that the Ministry and the Government in the course of the war have actively supported Hamas in the ongoing conflict in Gaza. 
During the ongoing conflict, the Norwegian Government, through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, has, along with other European Governments, sought to play a role as a mediator in relation to the Egyptian peace initiative. We fail to see that the distribution of anti-Semitic pictures is compatible with a role in the peace process concerning Gaza. We ask the Ministry to immediately recall the disseminated pictures, and to publicly apologize for the incident. 
 
Sincerely 
Center against anti-Semitism (SMA) 
Erez Uriely, Director 
Copy w/ attachment: 
Israeli ambassador to Norway

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Reality

This is the reality for the Palestinian. 
 
No one does anything, Why?

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Reality

Add to this picture this move and see what are those Jews: 
http://www.ikhwantube.org/video/2655/The-Childrens-of-Palestine-A-must-See-movie

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an eye for an eye?!

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88. Good link

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anti what?

Is it Israel or all the jews in the world?  
 
Did the Jews kill the Palestinians in Gaza? Of course not! Olmert and the Israeli army did it!  
Is it fair to blame all the jews for this agression? No, it is Olmert and the Israeli army who are to blame! 
 
So why do some of the Jews not even living in Israel take any critique against Israel personally, and start the blame-game - bring up holocaust, antisemitism and make paranoid attacks on people with a different view on the Gaza conflict? 
 
If I dont't like toy-guns for kids, it doesnt mean that I hate the toy industry! 
If I don't like hamburgers, it doesn't mean I hate America (and food in general) 
If the Nazis burned down my hometown in 1945, it doesn't mean that I hate Germany. 
If I dont't like Robert Mugabe, it doesn't mean that I hate black people! 
If I don't support what Dr. Mengele did (or the Norwac doctors in Gaza) it doesn't mean I hate modern medicine! 
If I think Uri Geller is a fraud - it doesn't mean I'm an antisemit. 
If I'm scared of flying it doesnt mean i hate Lufthansa! 
 
So, to Hell with Olmert and the Israeli army, and long live the jews, the muslims, the christians, the non-believers, and the rest of the peace loving peoples of the world!  
 
Please show me some healthy subversive Israelis - I know they are there - not marching to the beat of the drum - being called "traitors" by their own countrymen! 
 
Try peace - it is not bad at all! (oh, yes that applies to the arabs aswell, I wouldn't like being labelled anti-muslim either...) 
 
Ok, please reply - shoot yourself in the foot and call me an antisemit.

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anti what?

To: Center against anti-Semitism (SMA)  
Erez Uriely, Director  
Copy w/ attachment:  
Israeli ambassador to Norway 
 
The pictures have nothing to do with 'anti-semitism'. They mearly portray what was done to Jews by Nazis and what is being done to Palestinians by the Jewish State of Israel. Any offence you feel from the pictures should be directed to those causing the offence, namely, ISRAEL!  
 
It was ISRAEL who slaughtered the innocent Palestinian children (who are also semites)in those pictures, just as the Nazis slaughtered the innocent Jewish children.  
 
If there is any 'anti-semitism' here, it comes from you and those like you who have betrayed those innocent Jews killed by Nazis during the Holocaust. Their memories should have been RESPECTED by YOU more than anybody! In their memory, you should have delivered on the common call of the Jews 'NEVER AGAIN, TO ANYONE!' - That noble statement INCLUDES PALESTINIANS! STOP THIS GENOCIDE!

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isreal is wrong

are u lot dom how can u say tht there is no comparasion. well i tell u now dere is , u tellin me tht jews r doing da right thing attacking palastine civilian NO!!!. it is wrong in britian and america thy usuually go in 2 da country and find the person they want 2oo get aka 'teriorist'. but atleast they dont kill inasent civilians. and Y da hell when a muslim or a person from da middle east not including da jew does some thing illegal they call him a teriorist buh if it was an amrican or british they find laughable excuses like he was a junky or was mentally ill. i mean wat has the world turned to. and did u notice when OBAMA became the prasedent isrealis stoped the war with palestinies wat pussys. it is basiclly whenn jews nearly got demolisd by nazes dey were all scared and runing for dere lifes buh when dey attacted the palestines the were happy desgusting

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Israel "defending" themselves?

How can Israel, the OCCUPYING FORCE be the one defending themselves? And how can the world tolerate this? If the US, the UK or any other country were occupied by an opressive government people would support the resistance. Israel should never have been created.

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Israel "defending" themselves?

Anyone who seriously can't see the difference between these two things, and don't find this picture by picture comparement ridicolous(?) needs to read some history or just open their eyes a little. I mean, not that I'm not totally pissed of at israel for doing what they did, but come on. Everyone with an IQ over 90 KNOW that you can't just take two pictures and compare them.

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Israel "defending" themselves?

A picture is worth a thousand words

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What is comparable is the personal level

The pictures compare situations of violence and human suffering. In that they are true. 
 
The comparison fails as the Nazis were attempting genocide, while Israel is merely trying to get more land (hence push out Palestinians) and when Palestinians push back to exert violent control. 
 
Part of the response of Palestinians, some Palestinians, has been indiscriminate violence against civilians. Some Imams--too many--sanction that violence. 
Part of the violence which Israel causes tries to spare civilians (sometimes), but the violence Israel allows from its settlers is targeted at civilians, and when the IDF tanks roll into Bethlehem or Gaza, soldiers and units- pushed by the ideology of revenge and conquest and at times blessings of Rabbis-also have actually targeted civilians. 
 
And the level of "collateral damage" whether civilians were targeted or not is beyond the pale. 
 
Yes, Israel is trying to defend itself. But it is also trying to conquer and control another people. 
 
There's blame to share on all sides. 
First things first: the occupation must stop. 
Today people in Gaza cannot rebuild: Israel controls everything and will not let the goods in. Will that stop violence? (Best post was #34)

http://www.livingbetweenworlds.blogspot.com

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Watch and judge for yourself

Find on the net document called "Palestine is still the issue" and then decide who is right and who is wrong. Who is terrorised and who is terrorist...

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the jewish bombs

I will try to answer the following popular question with simple logic.  
 
"Did the Jews have an agenda stating as a goal the destruction of Germany? And where were their rockets?" 
 
The problem for Nazi Germany wasn't foreign warfare. It was foreign ideas. Because National Socialism is an ideology, it is intellectual warfare: you don't bomb people out of their bodies. You talk them out of their minds. The problem for the national socialist idea -that the national identity/history is the most important thing ever- is that Jews are traditionally a people who confess to, and believe in, statelessness. In that sense, religion is practically intellectual warfare. Religion doesn't need rockets: it sends in some preachers and some "important books". Those are the bombs the Jews threw into Germany to tear The Third Reich apart. I am not an anti-Semite. I believe that everyone should have the right to send rockets towards oppression. I just faced the fact that words can be of more danger (to some- not me) than even bombs can. Palestine does not have a word against Israel. Just bombs.

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Complete Hogwash

If Arabs were to lay down there arms, there would be no more war in the Middle East.  
 
If Israel were to lay down it's arms, there would be no more Jews in the Middle East

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#99 - Hogwash

So, if Palestinians lay down all fights, the Israeli government would withdraw the settlements and stop destroying homes in Jerusalem? Or--as there was a truce in Gaza from June to November--it would allow a normal economy in Gaza? (Memo: it didn't!). 
Why has Israel never responded to the Arab League offer for recognition by all Arab States?  
Open your eyes: it's not black and white. Israel is not a saint. You're heading nowhere with the brainwash of saints and demons-- Israel is not just destroying Palestine; it's destroying the future of a Jewish State. Wake up from the propaganda. For your own sake.

http://www.livingbetweenworlds.blogspot.com

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