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May 02 2009
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By Don Williams   

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You say torture works? Prove itImage

The usual suspects--Dick Cheney, Fox News, even voices at Newsweek--are suggesting that waterboarding and other tough interrogation techniques just might have made us safer during the Bush years. As if there's still reason to debate the use of torture, kidnapping and black box prisons.

There's one compelling reason we should not embrace this cold, sly notion. His name is al-Libi (Al-LEE-bee). It means "the Libyan," and there are many people so named in the Arab world. The fact that Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi is not the most famous of them all is an indictment of American media and politics, including the Democrats, for his lies, obtained under torture, led to the death and displacement of millions. I keep waiting for Obama to utter al-Libi's name. What's he waiting for? Until he and others do, it's up to us to shout it from the rooftops.

Won't you join me? It's not hard to say. Al-Libi. So shout it out. In doing so, we just might rescue the soul of the nation. Email me at DonWilliams7[at]charter.net to find out how making al-Libi famous could end the debate over torture.

Al-Libi is not a nice man. He's a terrorist and a trainer of terrorists (http://tinyurl.com/c7czzk). Yet even he should never have been tortured, not only because torture's wrong, which it is, but because the lies al-Libi told to end his CIA-sponsored abuse were used to bomb, invade and occupy Iraq, a terrible mistake in the opinion of most, and one for which we've paid and continue to pay dearly.

Though never mentioned by name, al-Libi’s false statements turned up in Dick Cheney’s August 2002 VFW speech in Nashville laying out his bogus case for war against Iraq (http://tinyurl.com/chpqzl) according to the Guardian and many others. And they turned up in Bush’s 2003 State of the Union Address.

And in Colin Powell’s 2003 speech to the United Nations. Those speeches laid down the justification for a war that led to millions of wounded, killed and displaced Iraqis, thousands of American casualties, a doubling of the national debt, loss of prestige by America in the eyes of the world, and much else I can document. Many believe the war led to our current economic miseries. It's an even bet whether Obama will be able to extricate us from these disasters.

Why am I virtually alone in telling you about al-Libi? Why isn't Congress telling you? Why isn't the national media? For that matter, why isn't Obama? If anyone ever needed proof that torture is not only evil, but a bad idea all around, the case of al-Libi proves it. If you don't believe me, read the July 5, 2004, article, "Iraq and Al Qaeda" in Newsweek by Michael Isikoff. http://www.newsweek.com/id/54310. Or read the well-sourced Wikipedia account (http://tinyurl.com/c7czzk).

Why are opponents of war, torture and kidnapping so slow to make their case about just how badly torture may backfire? Is it because they were taken in by Bush's false allegations and would rather gloss over that sad fact than to make al-Libi central to their argument against torture? Is it because they've so long lived in fear of being called disloyal or soft on terrorism? Is it from a misplaced sense of respect for Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld/Powell? Maybe so. I'll grant them credible
intentions.

Whatever fig leaf they've been hiding behind, the record is clear that al-Libi was under custody of U.S. secret forces in 2001 when CIA agents blindfolded him, duct-taped him, loaded him onto an airplane, told him as they closed the door on the plane that flew him off to Egypt that they planned to rape his mother while he was away. Interrogators in a secret hell-hole Egyptian prison asked al-Libi none too gently, the record shows, to “admit” that Saddam Hussein was teaching al-Qaeda to make chemical and biological weapons and that Saddam was not above giving them nukes. None of this was true.

According to articles nearly buried in The New Yorker (http://tinyurl.com/cknu4u), The New York Times, Newsweek (http://www.newsweek.com/id/141009) and others, Al-Libi gave them what they wanted, however. Later he recanted, and said he told the lies to end the pain of torture. A Republican dominated Senate Intelligence committee long ago confirmed that no ties existed between Saddam and al-Qaeda, and further reported that, far from working together to attack U.S. interests, Saddam and bin Laden regarded each other as enemies.

Just how aware Bush and Cheney were that they wrung lies from a tortured man to justify the war in Iraq should long ago have been exposed.

Many talking heads parrot unproven claims that we've disrupted terror plots through use of “aggressive interrogation techniques.” Yet research shows that prior to the CIA-sponsored torture, al-Libi was providing good, solid information thanks to traditional measures employed by the FBI. He was not alone, as I can show you. Yet al-Libi's case is the most striking. There's no doubt the Bush Administration tortured a mentally twisted terrorist into telling us lies the president then used to start a war.

Don't let this central fact of history get lost. Join me in saying aloud, to friends and relations and stranges all across the net, just one name. Let al-Libi be the last word in the debate over torture. He's living proof that torture turns us into brutes, endangers our civil liberties, our highest values, our fighting men and women, the lives of civilians across the globe and rolls yet more brutality down the ages.

Shout it from the rooftops.

Al-Libi.

Don Williams a contributing editor at MWC is a widely published columnist, short story writer, and the founding editor and publisher of New Millennium Writings, an annual literary anthology...

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1. 02-05-2009 08:40
Is it "Worth IT"?
The hypothetical individual Fred is claiming that it is "worth it" to kill grandma because the inheritance she's going to leave him is more than a million dollars. 
 
Dick Cheney et al, most of the US Corporate media and a good part of the American population are in the same position as our hypothetical "Fred". 
 
Maybe there is no god, no heaven or hell - I personally think not - but there is certainly no meaningful life on this earth without the thing that we call morality and the humanity it brings to our lives. 
 
The fact that this has been lost by all those mentioned above was evident long before the election of GWB. Their having reached the conclusion that torture is "worth it" is only symptom, not cause. 
 
Ultimately it is the loss of humanity that is at the root of the collapsing US economy and it will be the thing that makes the US a living hell when the collapse is fully emerged.
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allen.jasson@rightofchoice.comNOSPAM! ">Allen L. Jasson
2. 02-05-2009 09:55
The International Libertarian
Don, great article. I won't try to prove you wrong this time. I stand with you in condemning torture.  
 
If you're looking for he truth torture doesn't work. From the warmongers POV it worked in providing "evidence" they needed to justify the war.  
 
There are other barbaric reasons the warmongers use torture. Please read: 
 
Why They Torture 
Why They Torture
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3. 04-05-2009 14:15
Who cares?
Who cares if torture works? 
 
Genocide works 
Nuclear warfare works 
Biological and chemical weapons work 
Political assassination works 
Tyranny works 
 
There are many things that work that we don't do because they're evil. They work because they're not restrained by moral obligations. 
 
Torture is wrong. Effectiveness does not make it right.
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4. 12-05-2009 10:01
A sad news update on al-Libi.

 
Will there ever be any hope that those who torture will ever see a courtroom? Now they probably killed (with impunity) someone who could have given critical testimony. No one believes it was suicide. Try to be cognizant that all these new crimes must be now hung around Obama’s neck. Sorry… 
 
“Ali Mohamed al-Fakheri, also known as Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, was found dead in his cell in Abu Salim prison in Tripoli, Human Rights Watch said in a news release Monday. Al-Libi had previously been held in secret U.S. and Egyptian detention facilities from late 2001 to at least 2005, HRW said. 
\"The death of Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi means that the world will never hear his account of the brutal torture he experienced,\" Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch, said. \"So now it is up to Libya and the United States to reveal the full story of what they know, including its impact on his mental health.\" 
HRW called on Libya to disclose what it knows about al-Libi\'s treatment in U.S. and Egyptian custody.” 
 
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/11/UPI-NewsTrack-TopNews/UPI-61991242093600/
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deboldt@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">Bob Boldt

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