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THE GRANDCHILDREN OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS FROM WORLD WAR II ARE DOING TO THE PALESTINIANS EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM BY NAZI GERMANY …
 
BUILDING WALLS & FENCES TO KEEP PEOPLE IN PRISON

                                                                   
Hitler  Yesterday                                      Israel   Today

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CHECK POINTS NOT TO ALLOW PEOPLE BASIC FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT

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ARRESTS & HARASSMENTS

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DESTROYING HOMES & LIVELIHOODS

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GIFTS (WITH LOVE) FROM THE CHILDREN OF PEACE-LOVING & CIVILIZED COUNTRIES

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THE CLASSIC PROPAGANDA MACHINE - YOU WILL FIND THE PICTURE IN BLACK & WHITE IN ALL AMERICAN AND SOME OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES HISTORY BOOKS, ENCYCLOPAEDIAS, LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS… THAT DEPICTS A YOUNG JEWISH BOY WITH HIS HANDS UP WHILE NAZI TROOPS POINT THEIR GUNS AT HIM AND HIS FAMILY IN ORDER TO EXPEL THEM FROM THEIR HOMES… (IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU SYMPATHIZE WITH THE VICTIMS & TO SUPPORT THEIR CAUSE FOR JUSTICE & A HOMELAND)
  THE ISRAELIS PRACTICE THE SAME TACTICS

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1. 19-01-2009 07:52
Wow, point made.
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Joshua Dunlop
2. 19-01-2009 07:56
Yeah but the difference is the Jews in Germany werent shooting rockets and bombs at the Nazi's or German people....
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3. 19-01-2009 07:59
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They would, if they could.
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Shahram
4. 19-01-2009 08:03
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these jews are nuts!
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5. 19-01-2009 08:05
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this is pure BS! 
 
propaganda BS!
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6. 19-01-2009 08:18
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Jews have forgot their history... 
dats why every one hates them...
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33percent@gmail.comNOSPAM! ">PopJohn Paul 2
7. 19-01-2009 08:21
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Yeah but the difference is the Jews in Germany weren't shooting rockets and bombs at the Nazi's or German people.... 
 
Agreed!..and yeah they could have. What was stoping them?
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8. 19-01-2009 08:39
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wow that is so incentive to the people of Israel or holocaust survivors and what they've been through. to even think of comparing Israel foreign policies to nazi Germany is ridiculous. 
I'm pretty sure the germans didn't stop fighting for 3 hours each day just so that help could be rushed in. the reason why so many civilians were killed in this is because hamas hid themselves in highly populated areas. Israel and Nazi Germany are not even close in the slightest.
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anonymous
9. 19-01-2009 08:43
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right to defend their own people is major responsibility of each n every country... 
What d fuck is hamas doing during the war...hiding himself and letting their people die...??
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10. 19-01-2009 08:44
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Quote:
 
the reason why so many civilians were killed in this is because hamas hid themselves in highly populated areas.

 
 
Give me F%#$ing brake. Everywhere in Gaza is highly populated area. They hit UN school two times for goodness sake.
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Shahram
11. 19-01-2009 09:02
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shut the fuck up first off the Palestines have been fucking with the jews for past couple 1000s years  
and the palestine as start it . go read books
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ed
12. 19-01-2009 09:11
baller
Hmmm... is anyone forgetting that the nazi's organized the mass slaughter of humans? I'm not the biggest fan of Israel, but this comparison is absolutely absurd! You could do the same with pictures of what America has done in Iraq and it would be just as poor a comparison.
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jesse
13. 19-01-2009 09:12
Not True
Someone incorrectly said "But Jews weren't shooting rockets at Germany." In fact, Communist groups [run almost exclusively by Jews] took over Bavaria using machine guns and bombs--for six days. Likewise,Emma Goldman--also a Jew--went around advocating assassinations of heads of state. According to Churchill, almost all of the Bolshevik leadership were Jewish. Bela Kuhn--Hungary's dictator--was Jewish, etc. Radicals--who happened to be Jewish--killed millions in the time-period.
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14. 19-01-2009 09:14
hm
There was no Israel before 1948, ed. There would have been none without english & american "friends" that sent in exile millions of Palestines. Go study.
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meri
15. 19-01-2009 09:22
hm
Fu**ing jews, even with the best military hardware and training in the world (along with the US' bottomless "financial aid"), you still couldn't go further than a couple of hundred meters. God's chosen people got their asses handed to them (again).  
 
It seems as though your "world class" IDF can only ever dare to win against defenceless kids and old women.  
 
That’s two wars in a row you’ve lost now…the beginning of the end.
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prayerlocks5421@yahoo.comNOSPAM! ">Prayer Locks
16. 19-01-2009 10:12
civilians
Sure, Hamas is hiding in civilian areas. I'll even give you this one. But if that's reason enough to start shooting at civilians and bombing civilian areas, then you are absolutely NO better than Hamas. Besides, I think that in this one operation you have killed more civilians than Hamas ever killed in Israel in its entire existence. 
 
Israel has proven to be no better than Hamas, period. If you were civilized, you would've prefered to do NOTHING over slaying innocent men, women and children. Shame on you Israel, and shame on the IDF. You have lost your credibility in the world, so you're on your own now. Good luck.
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Harry
17. 19-01-2009 10:25
civilians
Forget about the past can't change that,it doesn't matter who started it because it just ends up being a back and forth exchange anyways.Anyone can say this thing has been going on for a 100 years but that still is not an excuse for what people can do to change the present and the future for these two nations.
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epitap
18. 19-01-2009 11:00
Comparison
The jews int the holocaust just lived their lives, they didn\'t try to destroy Germany. 
Nazi walls were made to contain, Israeli walls are made to protect. 
In the holocaust the nazis arrested citizens because they were jewish. Israelis arrest TERRORISTS! 
Nazis attacket civilians, Israelis defend civilians. jewish civilians were killed for fun, palestinian civilians get killed because the Hamas use children as shilds! 
Nazis destroyed jomes because they were jewish homes. IDF destroys homes because missiles are being launched from there and tunnels are being dug from them. 
 
There defiantly room for comparison, but it\'s not the same. 
Hamas are terrorists who terrorize both Israeli civilians and palestinians.
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Einstine1984
19. 19-01-2009 11:21
go study??
go study??.. israel was created in the palestine zone... palestines take from crusade`s at medieval time the gods land. and keep it until america create israel. and then they exile the palestine people... what do you will think if you have a land and by the nuts of the americans they take your land and give it to a religion that is opposite of yours... and 50 years after. israel kill civilianz, child. and innocent people... shame of the memories of the jews that survive to WWII.
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guardian
20. 19-01-2009 11:35
Palestinian propaganda
The Palestinian propaganda machine strikes again! 
 
And you keep falling for it! 
Where do these peaceful people get their rockets from? 
Why do Palestinians target citizens? Why do they hide military actions within populated places?
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mwcnews@reparateme.comNOSPAM! ">Reparate Me
21. 19-01-2009 11:47
Palestinian propaganda
The areas wouldn't be so populated had Israel not forced Palestinians into permanent Refugee camps. Why do Israelis target citizens? Does a UN school look like a big threat to the IDF?
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I
22. 19-01-2009 11:57
Palestinian propaganda
Everybody needs to watch this: 
 
http://www.tinyurl.com/occupation101 
 
Please send the link to all of your friends.
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23. 19-01-2009 22:35
Palestinian propaganda
I must say that the comparison betwenn the fate of the jews in the 2nd world war and the fate of the palestinians now is really over the top. 
BUT EVERYONE WHO SHOUTS PROPAGANDA IS A HUGE FUCKTARD WITH RACIST TENDENCIES. BECAUSE THE PICTURES ON THE RIGHT ARE CERTAINLY ALL FALSE, RIGHT???? THERE IS OF COURSE NO HUMILIATION, RANDOM \\\"COLLATORAL DAMAGES\\\", RANDOM DESTROYING OF THE LIVELHOODS OF THE PALESTINIANS, RIGHT????? NO ATTEMPT TO CONTAIN THEM IN HUGE GHETTOS. SHIT LIFE IN GAZA MUST BE PARADISE. 
I accept that you say that\\\'s all not true but then you are simply a racist. Period
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24. 20-01-2009 03:31
@23
OR maybe you are racist against the Jews? Doesn't any country have a right to defend itself? So the rockets aren't in this equation huh? I'm an anti-zionist and i can see through this bullshit.
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25. 20-01-2009 11:43
Never again, no racism, speak out
Very effective and true collage - the camera does notlie.  
 
The racist Zionists of Apartheid Israel are doing in principle in Occupied Palestine what the Nazis did in Nazi-Occupied Europe - the DIFFERENCES lie place, time, peoples and degree, the COMMONALITIES in racism, genocide, might is right, mass murder, mass paedocide, mass imprisonment, gross human rights abuse and anti-Semitism (anti-Arab anti-Semitism by racist Zionists, RZs = Rah-zees, ah-tsees; anti-Jewish anti-Semitism by the Nazis = Nah-zees, Nah-tsees). 
 
The quantitative comparison is between the Nazi Jewish Holocaust (5-6 million dead, 1 in 6 dying from deprivation, mass dispossession, mass displacement and mass imprisonment; this being part of a wider WW2 Holocaust [ignored by racist Zionists and by similarly racist and holocaust-ignoring pro-Zionist media, academics and politicians] in which 30 million Slavs, Jews and Roma died; mass imprisonment in concentration camps) VERSUS the racist Zionist (RZ) Palestinian Holocaust and Palestinian Genocide (0.3 million post-invasion avoidable deaths; 0.2 million post-invasion under-5 deaths; 2,400 under-5 year old infants passively murdered each year; 4,300 Occupied Palestinians passively murdered each year; 700 Occupied Palestinians violently murdered by RZs each year (1 in 5 being CHILDREN); 85% of Christian Occupied Palestinians have fled; mass incarceration of millions in concentration camps [Apartheid-style Bantustans], 1.5 million in the Gaza Concentration Camp alone; 7 million Palestinian refugees; part of a wider Global Avoidable Mortality Holocaust in which 16 million mostly non-Europeans die avoidably each year from deprivation, about 7 million being Muslims in an ongoing Muslim Holocaust). 
 
The core messages from the WW2 Holocaust (30 million Slav, Jewish and Roma dead) are \"zero tolerance for racism\", \"never again to anyone\" and \"bear witness\" - sacred messages adhered to by all decent folk but GROSSLY VIOLATED by the racist Zionists, Apartheid Israel and the evil, genocidal Zionist-backed Bush-ites and neo-Bush-ites involved in the Palestinian Genocide, the Iraqi Genocide and the Afghan Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 0.3 million, 2 million and 4-6 million, respectively; post-invasion under-5 infant deaths 0.2 million, 0.6 million and 2.1 million, respectively; refugees 7 million, 6 million and 4 million, respectively - Palestinian Holocaust, Iraqi Holocaust and Afghan Holocaust and GENOCIDES as defined by Article 2 of the UN Genocide Convention: UN Genocide Convention ).
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gpolya@bigpond.comNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya
26. 20-01-2009 12:33
Reality
Anyone can point to the fact that people died in both situations.  
 
However, as someone pointed out correctly earlier. One group (Israel) is defending itself. One group (NAZI Germany) was controlling another to eventually Kill Them. The Israelis have no "Final Solution" of which the Germans Have.  
 
Who broke the Cease Fire? 
Hammas  
 
Who was trying to pull its own people (the colonists), forcefully out of the Gaza Strip? 
Israel 
 
Additionally, some say that Israel's response was not proportional, and maybe they should let a few rockets hit, only a few Israelis died. But what if they didn't do anything after the first rockets? How hard would it be after the 1000th to then do something?  
 
Many people point out that the English, Americans and other countries set up the modern country of Israel for the Jews to have a safe country for themselves, and that they apparently kicked out the Palestinians. No one seems to mention that the Palestinian people were also kicked out of other countries. If they want to go to their traditional homelands, good luck. Lebanon will not take them. Syria will not take them. Jordan will not take them. Also the original peoples of the Palestine, were not the Muslims that they are today. They were Hebrews, and then Assyrians, and others as well, but not originally Muslims. So to make the claim that it is historically their land would be difficult.  
 
Should Israel let Palestine have its own states? Probably, just as a matter of good will. But is it required to do so, no. 
 
If you notice, Israel is not having the same problem with the West Bank. Maybe we should look to Hamas and it's supplier (IRAN) and tell them to stop halting the process towards peace.  
 
Israel is protecting themselves from Terrorism, and much of the world cries foul. Students on University campuses shout stop the violence with subtle messages of supporting Gaza. Hamas is the beginner of the violence. Israel does not want to hurt the people in Gaza, only those who attack it, Hamas, and they have a right to defend themselves
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M
27. 20-01-2009 14:58
JEWS expose Racist Zionist (RZ) LIES
The outrageous Zionist falsehoods in post #26 must be addressed. 
 
1. The over 7 million Palestinians refugees (the biggest single group of refugees in the world today) didn\'t somehow come from \"nowhere\" - in the 1878 Census Jews (indigenous and immigrant) totalled about 5% of the Palestine population of about 0.5 million; by 1947 they represented only 33% of the population; according to top JEWISH Israeli historian Professor Ilan Pappe in his book \"The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine\" , 800,000 Indigenous Palestinians were expelled from Palestine in 1948. 
 
2 According to top JEWISH British historian Professor Sir Martin Gilbert\'s \"Jewish History Atlas\" the \"Jews\" only ruled PARTS of Palestine and then mostly only SMALL PARTS in the periods 1000BC to the Babylonian conquest in 586 BC (apart from the Solomon-David period 1000-925 BC, and then certainly not \"all\"), 165-63 BC (PARTS of Palestine in Hasmonean Jewish Kingdom in Roman- and Greek-dominated Palestine), 66-73 (small parts in the Zealot revolt period). 
The Christian and Muslim Indigenous Palestinians trace continuous occupation over 2 millennia and thence beyond for their forebears. 
 
3. The Catholic Church, top US conservative Pat Buchanan and many others refer to Gaza as a Concentration Camp; outstanding Jewish American scholar Professor Noam Chomsky describes the Occupied Palestinian Territory as a \"Prison\".  
 
4. Outstanding , ex-IDF soldier, Israel Oxford Professor of International Relations, Professor Avi Shlaim 
[see: How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophestates, QUOTE: \"The only way to make sense of Israel\'s senseless war in Gaza is through understanding the historical context. Establishing the state of Israel in May 1948 involved a monumental injustice to the Palestinians ... Israel\'s record over the past four decades makes it difficult to resist the conclusion that it has become a rogue state with \"an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders\". A rogue state habitually violates international law, possesses weapons of mass destruction and practises terrorism - the use of violence against civilians for political purposes. Israel fulfils all of these three criteria; the cap fits and it must wear it. Israel\'s real aim is not peaceful coexistence with its Palestinian neighbours but military domination.\" 
 
4. Zionism is heretical , blasphemous and CONTRARY to Orthodox JUDAISM which believes in a \"kingdom of the mind\" and that return to Zion can only happen when the Moschiach (Messiah) reveals the glory of Adonai (the Lord) to the WHOLE World (see: Orthodox Jews Demand End to Zionist Atrocities in the Middle East.  
 
5.The core messages from the JEWISH Holocaust (5-6 million dead, 1 in 56 dying of deprivation) ate \"zero tolerance for racism\", \"never again to anyone\" and \"bear witness\" - sacred HOLOCAUST messages egregiously violated by the racist Zionists (RZs) running the Nazi-style, Apartheid-style, race-based state of Apartheid Israel. 
 
6. Outstanding JEWISH American scholar Professor Jared Diamond is clear in his climate warnings and in stating in his best-selling book “Collapse” (Prologue, p10, Penguin edition) the “moral principle, namely that it is morally wrong for one people to dispossess, subjugate, or exterminate another people.” 
 
7. Half the Occupied Palestinian are children and three quarters women and children - yet over 1,300 Gazans have been murdered in reprisals for ZERO (0) Israeli deaths from rockets in the preceding year, a civilian targetting war crime according to outstanding JEWISH American law professor and President of the US National Guild of Lawyers Professor Marjorie Cohn: Israel’s Collective Punishment of Gaza
 
8. And yet the genocidally violent, anti-Arab anti-Semitic racist Zionists (RZs) scream :\"anti-Semitism\" even when anti-racist JEWISH humanitarians object to Israel human rights abuses (the 4 million illegally imprisoned Occupied Palestinians have been deprived by the RZs of ALL human rights set out in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights). Below is what outstanding JEWISH American scholar Professor Bertell Olmert has to say about racist Zionist anti-Arab anti-Semtitism (noting that RZ identification of evil, racist Zionist crimes with ALL Jews is flagrantly anti-Jewish anti-Semitism\") (see: Professor Bertell Ollman on Zionist anti-Semitism), Quote : \"Furthermore, if Zionism is indeed a particularly virulent form of nationalism and, increasingly, of racism and if Israel is acting toward its captive minority in ways that resemble more and more how the Nazis treated their Jews, then we must also say so. For obvious reasons, the Zionists are very sensitive about being compared to the Nazis (not so sensitive that it has restrained them in their actions but enough to bellow \"unfair\" and to charge \"anti-Semitism\" when it happens). Yet, the facts on the ground, when not obscured by one or another Zionist rationalization, show that the Zionists are the worst anti-Semites in the world today, oppressing a Semitic people as no nation has done since the Nazis \". 
 
9.Yet the racist, lying, holocaust-ignoring, Zionist-beholden Mainstream media, academics and politicians of thr Western Murdochracies take their advice from evil, traitorous, genocidal racist Zionists (RZs), IGNORING the expert, humane opinions of outstanding anti-racist, humanitarian JEWISH scholars around the World - scholars who are not just IGNORED but also THREATENED by FALSE racist Zionist identification of Apartheid Israeli crimes with ALL Jews.  
 
10. The racist Zionist (RZ) terrorists of nuclear terrorist rogue state Apartheid Israel and their traitorous Western supporters supporters not only kill and endanger children, women, Palestinians, Arabs, and Asians and not only pervert the values of the Western democracies (now perverted pro-racism, pro-genocide, polit-cally correct racist, democratic Nazi Murdochracies)- through their sustained LYING they have created a Western Culture of Lying and Ignoring that has so far been unable to deal with the ongoing Global Avoidable Mortality Holocaust (16 million people, 7 million of them Muslims in an ongoing Muslim Holocaust, die each year from deprivation) and from the Climate Genocide (that according to top UK climate scientist Professor James Lovelock will kill all but 500 million people this century due to unaddressed man-made global warming). 
 
The evil racist Zionists (RZs) and the RZ-backed Bush-ites and neo-Bush-ites must be exposed for the genocidal, racist mass murderers and LIARS that they are - and sidelined from public life as have been the Nazis, neo-Nazis and KKK (indeed outstanding JEWISH American investor and philanthropist George Soros has demanded the \"de-nazification\" of Bush America) (see: George Soros – Bush America needs de-Nazification ).
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gpolya@bigpond.comNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya
28. 20-01-2009 19:17
When claiming falsehoods, make sure your
To the Dr. 
 
Not every individual who believes in the Israeli state is a \"Zionist racist.\" You are correct in that the Hebrews only controlled parts of Palestine, but those were the areas that they are in currently. There was a United Kingdom of Israel. That was in the area known as Palestine. Other areas in Palestine included Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria.  
 
The comment about the Christians and Muslims being able to trace their heritage back two millennium is not quite true. Their genetic heritage is there, but not religious. Christianity started originally as a Jewish sect in the first century. Islam did not sprout till the Prophet Muhammad began his teachings around the 7th century AD. 
 
So if we want to get technical, your facts are wrong.  
 
Furthermore, Israelis have died from the rockets. The number is smaller than that of the Palestinians, but both sides have had casualties. Also, as other had pointed out, the reason for so many civilian casualties, is because Hamas is a group of cowards (my personal opinion) who hide among the civilians.  
 
To try and claim that no Israelis have died is just incorrect.  
 
Calling everyone who believes in Israel a racist does not help your point. It makes you look narrow minded.  
 
So although you try to point my falsehoods, you should look to the facts before doing so. I also again want to point out that I believe that the Muslim Palestinians should have their own state. But Israel should not be forced to compromise their own safety to do so. They should not be compared to Hitler\'s Nazis for reasons I previously mentioned. Their goal is not to destroy the Muslims, although they could at any moment. It is because of the West, which you so criticize that Israel does not do so.
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M
29. 20-01-2009 20:07
Racist Zionists: Nazi is as Nazi does
Setting up a race-based colony in the country of another People and then ethnic cleansing of the Indigenous People (7 million Palestinian refugees) is about as racist as racist gets - and specifically,in the case of racist Zionist-run Apartheid Israel anti-Arab anti-Semitic. 
 
And justifying this Nazi-style genocide by FALSE reference to the Torah is obscene, heretical, blasphemous and indeed about as anti-Jewish anti-Semitic by falsely dirtying the name of Judaism as you can get (indeed Orthodox Judaism REJECTS the Zionist racist perversion). 
 
What matters is not what allegedly was the case (uncredentialled, anonymous, pro-Zionist blogger VERSUS outstanding JEWISH historian Professor Sir Martin Gilbert) 2,900 years ago (under Nazi-style, racist and genocidal Saul, David and Solomon), 1,900 years ago (Christian and other Palestinians, \"Jews\" having been expelled by the Romans), 1,300 years ago (Palestine mostly Muslim with a major Christian minority) or 130 years ago (Jews 5% of the Palestine population). 
 
What matters TODAY are the HUMAN RIGHTS of the Indigenous Palestinians imprisoned and grossly abused on the basis of their RACE by racist Zionist (RZ)-run Apartheid Israel for 60 years e.g. over 1,300 killed recently by the latter-day Nazi Israeli racists as reprisal for the ZERO (0) Israeli deaths from Gazan rockets in the preceding year.  
 
While the evil Nazis advocated and observed a \"reprisal death ratio of 10\" (e.g. in the 1944 Ardeatine Cave reprisals massacre), the racist Zionists now in practice observe a \"reprisals death ratio\" of 1,300/0 = INFINTY - surely the ULTIMATE in racism. 
 
Nazi is as Nazi does - and worse than Nazi does is worse than Nazi is.  
 
Indeed this current obscene Israeli \"reprisals death ratio\" of INFINITY suggests that use of terms such as Nazi, quasi-Nazi or neo-Nazi to describe Apartheid Israeli actions is inaccurate and inadequate - that \"supra-Nazi\" or \"ultra-Nazi\" would be more appropriate.  
 
Readers of this thread will have to decide between the documented views of the outstanding, humanitarian JEWISH scholars (history, law, political science, linguistics) quoted in post #27 VERSUS variously false, uncredentialled, undocumented, unsubstantiated, pro-Zionist views of an anonymous pro-Israeli blogger.
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gpolya@bigpond.comNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya
30. 21-01-2009 00:49
First terrorist group in History was jew
Gå til Dagbladet.no onsdag 21. jan 2009, so du skal vite at den første terroristgruppen var jødisk.
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31. 21-01-2009 00:51
TRUTH
THIS IS REALLY VERY GOOD. 
 
SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. 
 
TELL THE TUTH TO THE WORLD
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32. 21-01-2009 01:13
TRUTH
Fuck Hamas. 
Fuck anti-semitism. 
God will judge us all.
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Stand with Israel
33. 21-01-2009 01:14
Zion
Jude.....fear our wrath
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Herr Eichmann
34. 21-01-2009 01:23
Meaningless blame game!
This terrible war has to stop right now!!! The pictures, both on the left and the right side, demonstrate terrible heart-breaking realities. To stop this shit, we have to focus on the big picture and stop arguing about who did what yesterday or ; even worse; for many maaaaany years ago. Don´t you feel any pain in you when you look at all the cruelty shown in all the pictures?  
So please, let´s start looking at solutions to live together instead of the whole meaningless blame game. It doesn’t solve anything. Don’t you see that civilians on both sides are suffering due to the political leaders’ unwillingness to lose power? It is as usual all about the power struggle and of course as always the civilians are the ones suffering.  
What is needed here is for individuals to stop all the hatred and start co-existing with each other. Don’t let the political leaders abuse you for their own gain and interests. Neither of these leader care for others and for the long-term solutions. If they did, they would calm down the hatred instead of firing it up. They would work for co-operation instead of all their power protection activities. 
So please, don’t lose the big picture, which is that we need to stop all this suffering for everybody involved.
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Josefin Ayani
35. 21-01-2009 01:27
Meaningless blame game????
Ther is only one solution - the Final one....
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Lucifer
36. 21-01-2009 01:32
First terror group was not Jewish
Haha, John Mor, du vet jo ingen ting. Artikkelen handlet om Lehi (Stern-gjengen), som ble etablert i 1940, mens Etzel (Irgun) ble etablert i 1931.  
Allerede på tidlig 1920-tall hadde sjeik Izz ad-Din al-Qassam trent islamister som fra 1929 fikk grønt lys fra mufien av Damaskus til å utføre terroraksjoner mot sivile. Gruppen, kjent som al-Kaff al-Aswad, opererte fra da og frem til al-Qassams død i 1935. 
 
Utenfor regionen har det også eksistert en rekke terrorgrupper, fortrinnsvis av anarkistisk natur, flere tiår tidligere, så at Stern-gjengen skal ha vært de første terrorister får du ta opp med legen din. 
 
In short; al-Kaff al-Aswad was established a decade before Lehi, and years before Etzel.
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37. 21-01-2009 01:53
Holocaust
In an interview a few months ago the israeli prime minister he said something like if hamas did not end the rocket shooting he would bring holocaust down on the palestines... So, by that he has put the israelis in the position of the nazis.  
 
Israel operates as a mix of the south african apartheid regime and nazi germany. 
 
THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THIS AND PUT SOME PRESSURE ON ISRAEL IS A BROAD GLOBAL BOYCOTT OF ALL ISRAELI PRODUCTS AND SERVICES!
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Boycott
38. 21-01-2009 02:05
Holocaust
What happend to stop the history from repeting itself again? Have we forgotten 2. world war? There seems to be no limit for what we can do to eachother. Both the palestines and the israelians have forgotten what they are fighting about, it's mostly about revenge now. Terrorisme against terrorisme.
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edwfre
39. 21-01-2009 02:24
Fundamental values.
There's something fundamentally wrong with the situation that's been going on for ages in the middle east. I don't belive in violence as a solution, rather forgiveness. Once in the future one nation have to lay down their weapons and respect the others beliefs, hopefully others will follow. This is a task which demands both courage and stupidity, but as I see it the only solution to a never ending "revengemania".
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BH
40. 21-01-2009 02:50
Non-racism & equality for peace NOW
Very well said in post #34 above by Josefin Ayani and in post #39 by BH - a very sensible, humane view is that the killing has to stop NOW with security, equality, justice and reconciliation as in post-Apartheid South Africa. 
 
However what people must recognize is that the killing is both ACTIVE (bombs and bullets that kill about 700 Occupied Palestinians each years VERSUS about 140 Israelis) and PASSIVE through deprivation (Occupier blockade of Gaza and other Occupier non-provision of food and medical requisites demanded by the Geneva Convention kills about 2,400 under-5 year old Occupied Palestinian infants and 4,300 Occupied Palestinians in total EACH YEAR). 
 
The solution for South Africa was non-racism and human rights for all - and what followed was peace with justice, equality and reconciliation.  
 
The same can happen in the Holy Land - thus an INTERIM \"2-state\" peace with non-racism, equality, justice and reconciliation can happen TOMORROW with mutual and internationally guaranteed total security for all; return to 1967 borders; freedom of all inhabitants to travel unimpeded anywhere in the Holy Land; racism banned; genuine reconciliation as in post-Apartheid South Africa (e.g. see Interim Peace Plan for Israel-Palestine).  
 
Unfortunately, the racist Zionists running Apartheid Israel are philosophically committed to ferocious, genocidal racism. As pointed out by ex-IDF soldier, Jewish Israeli , Oxford University professor in International Relations Professor Avi Shlaim (see: How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophe), QUOTE: \"review of Israel\'s record over the past four decades makes it difficult to resist the conclusion that it has become a rogue state with \"an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders\". A rogue state habitually violates international law, possesses weapons of mass destruction and practises terrorism - the use of violence against civilians for political purposes. Israel fulfils all of these three criteria; the cap fits and it must wear it. Israel\'s real aim is not peaceful coexistence with its Palestinian neighbours but military domination. It keeps compounding the mistakes of the past with new and more disastrous ones \". END QUOTE.
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gpolya@bigpond.comNOSPAM! ">Dr Gideon Polya
41. 21-01-2009 02:55
Non-racism & equality for peace NOW
wake up world, to stop Israels horrible actions as well as hamas horrible actionas, it isent enough condemning the attacks from both sides, boycott israel, and put both parts in charge of their actionas. Why waite, havent we waited long enough 60 years, thats plenty of time.
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emray
42. 21-01-2009 03:14
truth has many faces
i spent time in israel 20 years ago. i met many good isrealis, but also sionist nationalists htat only wanted to throw the paestinians to the sea. i am not surprised about these pictures, and i think it's a true comparison. the most disgusting picture, is the girl writing on the bomb... With love... brainwashing the children, that's a true crime
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jansveen@hotmail.comNOSPAM! ">jan sveen
43. 21-01-2009 03:55
truth has many faces
there is more blood in Africa in any of these areas.. 
 
We seem to forget that.. is it because they are black!??  
 
Hamas is wrong, Israel is wrong..  
the whole world is wrong.
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WYF
44. 21-01-2009 04:06
horible
:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
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MAB
45. 21-01-2009 04:15
What's wrong with you?
I'm in a state of chok! - how can anybody compare the Holocaust to the things that happens in Israel? It can only be peolpe who are not familiar with the History!!!! Shame on you!
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46. 21-01-2009 04:16
the rools?
shut the fuck up first off the Palestines have been fucking with the jews for past couple 1000s years  
and the palestine as start it . go read books 
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ed 
 
 
hey ed, how can the palestinians have been the one that started it 1000 years ago, when the israel jewish sionists claims that palestinians are not a group of people, but some name they invented just some years ago. jewish people contradict them selfs all the time. and by the way, read the books? what books? kafka? maybe you should read the tora. in the tora, your own jewish scripts, it\\\\\\\'s said that israel is not for living in, it\\\\\\\'s just for going trought, like a synagog or mosque or church
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jansveen@hotmail.comNOSPAM! ">jan sveen
47. 21-01-2009 04:43
the rools?
Well I have read all of the above comments and the main comparison done here is showing same actions are being carried out on the palestianians now as it has been on the jewish. 
The comparison done has nothing to do with numbers and in both cases, citizans were and are the innocent people.  
So still even if Hamas people are cowards, this is no justifications killing the kids, and old people; those that are severly burned with what some leaders suspect with phoshporous weapons. 
I guess the logical actions that must be taken is that been posted #34
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48. 21-01-2009 04:47
the rools?
Stop Israel
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gest
49. 21-01-2009 04:47
Shame on Israel!
Israellis should be ashamed of themselves! 
 
If I was living in Israel I would rather go to jail than to be a part of this barbarious warmachine!
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Elton
50. 21-01-2009 05:16
Shame on Israel!
The difference here is the use of pictures, from the second war they show teh execution of a policy of genocide, in the Gaza they show unforntunate sivilians caount in the midts of warefare, with the Israeli forces trying ot avoid it, and the Hamas hiding between the civilians.
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brynjulv haga


 
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