| Media Lying over Churchill's Crimes |
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British-Indian Holocaust Churchill is our hero because of his leadership in World War 2, but his immense crimes, notably the WW2 Bengali Holocaust, the 1943-1945 Bengal Famine in which Churchill murdered 6-7 million Indians, have been deleted from history by extraordinary Anglo-American and Zionist Holocaust Denial. In addition to his participation in British colonial war crimes in South Africa, the Sudan, Afghanistan and India as a soldier "just obeying orders", Churchill was deeply complicit as an Establishment politician, Minister and Leader in the political failures leading to World War 1; the disastrous WW2 Dardanelles campaign; the 1920s bombing of Iraqis and Kurds; political failure leading to World War 2; active promotion of Japanese entry into World War 2, pre-knowledge of the indefensibility of Singapore; pre-knowledge of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor; opposition to Indian Independence from the crippling obscenity of the British Raj; the 1943-1945 Bengal Famine; the anti-Arab anti-Semitic war-time decision to partition Palestine in favour of racist Zionist colonizers; and promotion of Hindu-Muslim antipathy with resultant Partition carnage and the present Pakistan-India nuclear standoff. These core crimes will be outlined and documented below (for a very detailed and referenced analysis of Churchill's crimes see the revised and updated 2008 version of my 1998 book "Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History. Colonial rapacity, holocaust denial and the crisis in biological sustainability" (see: http://janeaustenand.blogspot.com/ ). However Churchill's crimes through evil or incompetent involvement in these holocausts have been largely white-washed out of history by a huge body of Anglo-American, Zionist and Australian historians, journalists and politicians. Perhaps the most telling evidence for this entrenched UK, US and Zionist holocaust denial comes from a passage in Tariq Ali's recent book "Street Fighting". An Autobiography of the Sixties" (Verso, London, 2005). In pages 96-98 of this "Street Fighting" book Tariq Ali describes an Oxford Union debate on a Condolence Motion occasioned by the death of Winston Churchill in 1966 and the response by a brilliant anti-Establishment, anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist socialist Richard Kirkwood who listed the following of Churchill's crimes in opposing the Motion [my added dates in square brackets]: "It was Churchill who had been the most vociferous proponent of the armed intervention against the Russian Revolution of 1917; it was he who had justified the use of troops against the Welsh miners of Tonypandy [1910]; led the siege of Sidney Street in East London against a couple of anarchists [1911]; played the provocateur during the General Strike of 1926; backed the Greek far-right against the resistance in 1944; and opposed the Independence of India. It was for his consistent and long record of vindictiveness and hostility towards workers throughout the world that he was being mourned. For these reasons alone, shouted Kirkwood above the growing din, he, for one, would not stand and observe even a second's silence … He sat down to a chorus of boos, with some of his opponents literally frothing at the mouth. Kirkwood, however, was unmoved. As over 400 people stood up to observe the formalities, about twenty-five of us remained seated and were counted. Kirkwood was delighted. After all, he had separated the Bolsheviks from the Mensheviks" The extraordinary thing is that, due to British, American and Zionist holocaust denial, even a highly educated, anti-racist, anti-colonialist and anti-imperialist in 1966 was apparently utterly UNAWARE of the immensity of Winston Churchill's crimes, of which arguably the most serious was the deliberate, sustained, remorseless starving to death of 6-7 million Indians in the 1943-1945 Bengali Holocaust – an atrocity larger in magnitude than the World War 2 Jewish Holocaust (5-6 million dead, 1 in 6 dying from deprivation). I have provided below a catalogue in chronological order of Churchill's crimes that are certainly on a par with those of arch-fiend Adolph Hitler in terms of avoidable deaths. Key avoidable death statistics associated with these British Imperial crimes are given in parenthesis (the default references are my books "Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History" and "Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950" (G.M. Polya, Melbourne, 2007: http://mwcnews.net/Gideon-Polya ). [One is compelled at this point to ask the questions, what if Churchill, like many of the British Establishment, had been anti-Jewish anti-Semitic as well as anti-Arab ant-Semitic and what if Adolph Hitler had been more "democratic" and played cricket?] 1. Involvement as a soldier in British imperial war crimes in India [1896-1899; compelled on advice to join his regiment in India after charges of homosexual abuse; avoidable deaths in British India 1757-1947 1.5 billion; avoidable deaths in the 1895-1897 famine about 1 million; 1899-1900 Indian Famine, 6-9 million deaths]; a stint in Sudan at the Battle of Obdurman [1989; horrendous British atrocities]; a stint in South Africa as a war correspondent and thence as a soldier [1899; Boer (Afrikaaner) Genocide (1899-1902): 28,000 Afrikaaner women and children died in British concentration camps; see: "Australia's secret genocide history" on MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/22128/42/ ]. 2. Churchill was one of the more bellicose members of the British Cabinet prior to the outbreak of World War 1 [World War I Allied military and civilian dead totalled 5.7 million and 3.7 million, respectively, and the German-allied (Central Powers) military and civilian deaths totalled 4.0 million and 5.2 million, respectively; the troop movement-exacerbated Spanish Flu Epidemic killed 20-100 million people world wide: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/26587/42/ ]. 3. Churchill was responsible for the disastrous 1915 WW1 Dardanelles Campaign in Turkey [that killed 0.2 million Allied and Turkish soldiers and helped to precipitate the 1915-1923 Turkish Armenian Genocide that killed up to 1.5 million Armenians – a genocide that the holocaust-denying Turks, racist Zionists of Apartheid Israel and US Congressmen refuse to acknowledge as such ]. 4. Churchill vigorously promoted the unsuccessful UK and US invasion of Russia in response to the Russian Revolution [1917-1919; millions died in the Russian Civil War and the subsequent the Russian Famine; 7 million died in the circa 1930 Ukrainian Famine; and perhaps up to 20 million died overall in Stalinist atrocities i.e. a death toll comparable to that in World War 2]. 5. Churchill was involved in the suppression of the Arab revolt in Iraq (invaded by Britain in 1914) and bombing of Kurdish villages [violent British occupation of Iraq involving everything from poison gas (1920s) to mass murder of children (today) occurred on and off in the period 1914 to the present; 1990-2008 Iraqi excess deaths 4 million; under-5 infant deaths 1.8 million; refugees currently 6 million]. 6. Churchill was actively involved in the genocidal suppression of India and vehemently opposed Indian self-determination [1757-1947 excess deaths, 1.5 billion; Victorian era excess deaths, 1837-1901 0.5 billion; 1901-1947 excess deaths 0.4 billion; avoidable deaths in the 1895-1897 famine about 1 million; 1899-1900 Indian Famine, 6-9 million deaths; 1943-1945 Bengali Holocaust deaths 6-7 million]. 7. Churchill was again one of the more bellicose members of the British Parliament in the 1930s but is generally positively credited with warning the world about the rise of German Nazism [ World War 2 military deaths 25 million and civilian deaths about 67 million]. 8. Churchill actively sought the entry of Japan into World War 2 in order to involve the US and hence ensure victory [35 million Chinese avoidable deaths, 1937-1945; 6-7 million Indians perished in Churchill's deliberate scorched earth policy in Bengal 1943-1945; millions more died in the WW2 Eastern Theatre; see Rusbridger, J. and Nave, E. (1991), Betrayal at Pearl Harbor. How Churchill Lured Roosevelt into World War II (Summit, New York)]. 9. Churchill knew well in advance that Singapore was indefensible [8,000-15,000 killed, 130,000 captured in the 1941 Malaya campaign; 14,000 Australian, 16,000 British and 32,000 Indian troops surrendered in Singapore; see Rusbridger, J. and Nave, E. (1991), Betrayal at Pearl Harbor. How Churchill Lured Roosevelt into World War II (Summit, New York)]. 10. Churchill did not warn the Americans about the impending Pearl Harbor attack [the US authorities knew too but still did not warn their military personnel in Hawaii; see Rusbridger, J. and Nave, E. (1991), Betrayal at Pearl Harbor. How Churchill Lured Roosevelt into World War II (Summit, New York)]. 11. Churchill hated Muslims, Arabs and Indians and remorselessly refused food to 6-7 million starving Indians, rejected Viceroy Wavell's pleas and blocked Canadian attempts at relief [6-7 million Indian deaths – the British Bengali Holocaust death toll being numerically greater than the 5-6 million dead in the Nazi German Jewish Holocaust; see Moon, P. (1973) (editor), Wavell. The Viceroy's Journal (Oxford University Press, London) ]. 12. Churchill rejected top scientific advice and supported bombing of German cities instead of protecting Atlantic convoys [0.16 million allied airmen killed; 0.6 million German civilians killed; Battle of the Atlantic almost lost; huge impact on famine in the Indian Ocean region due to halving of Allied shipping in 1943; see Snow, C.P. (1961), Science and Government (The New English Library, London); Behrens, C.B.A. (1955), Merchant Shipping and the Demands of War (Longman's, Green, London, 1955); Taylor, A.J.P. (1975), The Second World War. An Illustrated History (Hamish Hamilton, London) ]. 13. Churchill acknowledged the crucial importance of maintaining Hindu-Muslim antipathy to preserve British rule [1 million dead and 18 million Muslim and Hindu refugees associated with India-Pakistan Partition in 1947]. 14. Churchill over-rode strong British military objections in 1944 to decide on Partition of Palestine [in 1948 Jews were 1/3 of the population; there are now over 7 million Palestinian refugees; post-1967 Occupied Palestinian excess deaths 0.3 million, post-1967 under-5 infant deaths 0.2 million; excess deaths in countries partially or completely occupied by Apartheid Israel now total about 24 million; 4 million Occupied Palestinians still illegally and abusively imprisoned by racist Zionist goons in their own country]. 15. British, American, Zionist and Australian adoption of Churchill's holocaust denying legacy, specifically his famous "history is written by the victors", has ensured continuance of Anglo-American and Zionist atrocities involving invasion, occupation, devastation and genocide [in relation to Occupiers (in parenthesis) 1950-2005 excess deaths in post-1945 occupied countries total 36 million (Belgium) 142 million (France), 24 million (Apartheid Israel), 0.7 million (Apartheid South Africa), 23 million (Portugal), 37 million (Russia), 9 million (Spain), 727 million (the UK) and 82 million (the US); 25 million Indigenous excess deaths in post-1950 US Asian Wars; 9-11 million excess deaths associated with 1990-2008 Bush Wars; post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Iraq 2 million, refugees 6 million; post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Afghanistan 4-6 million, refugees 4 million). Yet, to list just s few examples of UK-US holocaust ignoring, there is absolutely NO mention of the 1943-1945 Bengali Holocaust in the biography of Winston Churchill by pro-Zionist Professor Sir Martin Gilbert (Gilbert, M. (1991), Churchill. A Life (Heinemann, London); the recent histories by leading conservative Australian historian Professor Geoffrey Blainey (Blainey, G. (2000), A Short History of the World (Viking, Melbourne), Blainey, G. (2004), A Very Short History of the World (Viking, Melbourne), Blainey, G. (2005), A Short History of the 20th Century (Penguin, Melbourne); the recent history of Britain by pro-Zionist Professor Simon Schama (Schama, S. (2002), A History of Britain (BBC, London)); or even in an important book on Denial entitled "Denial. History betrayed" by Australian historian Professor Tony Taylor (Monash University, Melbourne; see my review ""Denial" book ignores UK and US genocide crimes": http://mwcnews.net/content/view/26450/26/ ). Another way of gauging this extraordinary English language holocaust ignoring and the ignoring of the immense crimes of Winston Churchill is to do a Yahoo Search for "Hitler's crimes" (25,000 results) and for "Churchill's crimes" (54 results, all but a mere several of these referring NOT to Winston Churchill but to horribly persecuted American Indian Professor Ward Churchill's "Crimes Against Humanity"). Perhaps, to be fair, we should leave the penultimate words to Winston Churchill himself. Here is a succession of Winston Churchill quotes that say it all. "In the standard of life they have nothing to spare. The slightest fall from the present standard of life in India means slow starvation, and the actual squeezing out of life, not only of millions but of scores of millions of people, who have come into the world at your invitation and under the shield and protection of British power." (Winston Churchill, speech to the House of Commons about Indians (1935); 1. Hansard of the House of Commons, Winston Churchill speech, Hansard Vol. 302, cols. 1920-21, 1935; quoted by Jog (1944), p195 in Jog, N.G. (1944), Churchill's Blind-Spot: India (New Book Company, Bombay).). "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion." (Winston Churchill to Leo Amery, Secretary of State for India (1942); 4. Diary of Amery (Secretary for India), September 9, 1942; quoted by Ziegler (1988), pp 351-352 in Ziegler, P. (1988), Mountbatten. The Official Biography (Collins, London); see also Moon, P. (1973) (editor), Wavell. The Viceroy's Journal (Oxford University Press, London).). "No great portion of the world population was so effectively protected from the horrors and perils of the World War as were the peoples of Hindustan. They were carried through the struggle on the shoulders of our small Island." (Churchill (1954), vol. 4, p181 in Churchill, W.S. (1954), The Second World War. Volumes I-VI (Cassell, London) – a book in which he makes NO mention of the 6-7 million Indians he murdered in 1943-1945; his statement is a gross falsehood in view of 2.4 million Indians serving in the Allied forces in WW2 and 6-7 million Indian deaths in the 1943-1935 Bengali Holocaust). "{Churchill} cynically telling the Cabinet in February 1940 that he "regarded the Hindu-Muslim feud as the bulwark of British rule in India"" (p381, Irving, D. (1987), Churchill's War, Volume I, The Struggle for Power (Veritas, Bullsbrook, WA) ) – from which we glean (p538) "Getting America into the war remained Churchill's highest priority throughout 1941", a position consonant with the position of the 1941 UK Ambassador to Japan: "I had, moreover, given it as my considered opinion in October 1941 that Japan's former desire to avoid war with the United States at almost any cost could no longer be counted upon as a factor in the situation should Japan feel herself to be finally driven into a corner ... there can be no doubt that the absence of any British moderating influence, whether at Washington or Tokyo, increased the chances of that breakdown which eventually occurred" (Sir R. Craigie, British Ambassador to Japan in 1941, in his final report to Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden (1943); Report of Sir R. Craigie (former British Ambassador to Japan) to Mr. Eden (British Foreign Secretary) in 1943, reproduced in Rusbridger & Nave (1991), Appendix I; Rusbridger, J. and Nave, E. (1991), Betrayal at Pearl Harbor. How Churchill Lured Roosevelt into World War II (Summit, New York)). "History is written by the victor", an aphorism often attributed to Winston Churchill. Conclusion History ignored yields history repeated. This extraordinary holocaust commission, holocaust denial and holocaust ignoring is an object lesson of this aphorism in a 21st century in which the British Imperialism of past centuries has been transmuted into an equally violent and destructive Anglo-American imperialism (excess deaths in the 1990-2008 Bush wars now total 9-11 million). According to the prestigious American Association for the Advancement for Science (AAAS) the world is facing acutely serious nuclear, greenhouse and poverty threats – 25,000 nuclear weapons (including the 15,000 of the US and the 200 of nuclear terrorist, war criminal, racist Apartheid Israel); there is a Climate Emergency in which the current 387 ppm atmospheric CO2 is already associated with huge Arctic ice melting, mass species extinctions and coral reef death and top scientists are urging a reduction to no more than 350 ppm; and 16 million people already die avoidably each year from deprivation and deprivation-exacerbated disease. Scientific risk management demands zero tolerance for lying. We can no longer tolerate humanity-threatening lying – there must be general zero tolerance for lying, whether lying by omission or lying by commission. We must resolutely oppose and expose racist, warmongering, genocidal, UK, Zionist and US imperialist lying, holocaust commission and holocaust denial – enough is enough, vastly too many people have died. Peace is the only way but silence kills and silence is complicity – please inform everyone you know.
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1. 18-11-2008 15:40 Churchill's secret confession "History is written by the victor" is an aphorism often attributed to Winston Churchill – and it has been very difficult to find anything that Churchill had to say about the Bengal Famine in which he deliberately murdered 7 million fellow human beings (notwithstanding his 1953 Nobel Prize for Literature “for his mastery of historical and biographical description as well as for his brilliant oratory in defending exalted human values”). Thus Churchill made no mention of the Bengal Famine and his deliberate, remorseless mass murder of 7 million Indians in his 6 volume history of the Second World War (see: Churchill, W.S. (1954), The Second World War. Volumes I-VI (Cassell, London)). The only substantial written comment made by Churchill about the Bengal Famine that I have found is in a secret letter to Roosevelt in mid-1944 that is a documentary confession of his inaction: “London, April 29 1944. Prime Minister to President Roosevelt Personal and Top Secret. 1. I am seriously concerned about the food situation in India and its possible reactions on our joint operations. Last year we had a grievous famine in Bengal through which at least 700,000 people died … I have had much hesitation in asking you to add to the great assistance you are giving us with shipping but a satisfactory situation in India is of such vital importance to the success of our joint plans against the Japanese that I am impelled to ask you to consider a special allocation of ships to carry wheat from Australia without reducing the assistance you are now providing for us, who are at a positive minimum if war efficiency is to be maintained. We have the wheat in Australia but we lack the ships. I have resisted for some time the Viceroy’s request that I should ask you for your help, but I believe that, with this recent misfortune with the wheat harvest and in the light of Mountbatten’s representations, I am no longer justified in not asking for your help.” (see Kimball(1984), p117: Kimball, W.F. (1984) (editor), Churchill & Roosevelt. The Complete Correspondence (Princeton University Press, Princeton); see also Polya 2008, pp157-158: (Polya, G.M. 2008, “Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History” (Polya, Melbourne): Churchill’s 1944 admission of inaction to Roosevelt ). All I have been able to find additionally are references to Churchill’s notorious comment about the Bengal Famine victims that “they breed like rabbits” e.g. reference by India ’s Nobel Prize-winning economist Professor Amartya Sen quoting in a lecture “Nobody need starve” to the Asian Institute of Technology (AIT), Bangkok, Thailand, 2002 (see: offensive Churchill remark Bengalis ) : “Winston Churchill's famous remark about the 1943 Bengal famine - that it was caused by the tendency of the people to breed like rabbits - belongs to this general tradition of blaming the colonial subject. This attitude had a crucial role in delaying famine relief. As a nine-year-old boy, I witnessed this famine myself, and I remember the sight of unbelievably emaciated people dying in the streets from April onwards, but very few government relief centres opened until late October.” I had the privilege of participating with Professor Sen and other scholars in a BBC program about the Bengal Famine that was broadcast in January 2008 (see: 2008 BBC Bengal Famine broadcast ). Guest 2. 18-11-2008 21:53 The Thomas Pages As a born South African thoroughly acquainted with its history, your comment about Churchill's "crimes in South Africa" is a total fabrication. Selfrighteous indignation is no excuse for propagating lies! Guest 3. 18-11-2008 22:13 British SA concentration camps Readers of this thread - false bald denial and false, defamatory abuse are no substitutes for rational discussion. Churchill WAS in South Africa as a journalist and then as a soldier with the racist, genocidal British Army. For an account of British atrocities against Boer women and children in British Concentration Camps read here the estimate of 26,000 women and children passively murdered by deprivation in these camps - the first such obscenities to be described as "Concentration Camps" (see Boer War & British Concentration Camps, South Africa 1900-1902). This article includes a photograph of a starving Boer girl almost as horribly emaciated as the poor Indians illustrated above in the "Churchill's Crimes" article who were starving at the same time under the heel of the proto-Nazi British (Churchill served with the British Army in BOTH places at about this same time as detailed in my article) Guest 4. 20-11-2008 11:30 Indian Holocaust 1.8 billion dead A correction – the correct full title of Tariq Ali\'s recent book is \"Street Fighting Years. An Autobiography of the Sixties\" (Verso, London, 2005). In addition, the avoidable deaths in British India 1757-1947 totalled about 1.5 billion if one excludes the so-called Native States. However if the Native States with in the British Raj are included the avoidable deaths in British India total about 1.8 billion (see: Exposing 1.8 BILLION Dead British Indian Holocaust, Churchill\'s Crimes & UK, Zionist & US Holocaust Denial. Guest 5. 20-11-2008 11:36 Indian Holocaust dead LINK I'll try that link in post #4 again: Exposing 1.8 BILLION Dead British Indian Holocaust. Guest 6. 23-11-2008 13:10 Google censors Churchill's crimes A Yahoo Search for the WORDS “Churchill’s crimes” yields my article above as #1 on page #1 out of 3.8 MILLION results. However a Google Search for the WORDS “Churchill’s crimes” yields only secondary references to this article (including discussions on page 1 of how Google has CENSORED my article) but the article itself is “buried” – I have just now waded through over 20 pages of results from this Google Search and the primary link on MWC News to my above article “Media lying over Churchill’s Crimes. British-Indian Holocaust” is SIMPLY NOT THERE. Media lying about Churchill’s crimes indeed. Censorship is both lying by omission and lying by commission. Censorship of humanitarian reportage of holocausts and genocides is repugnant. Google has a fine record of advancing information transfer and scholarship. However as long as this Google censorship continues (How? Why? Who? What? How extensive?), a YAHOO SEARCH is indicated if you want to find information readily free of censorship. Guest 7. 27-11-2008 04:02 That Man Churchill. Dr Gideon, I did know about the British concentration camps in South Africa. However I was shamefully ignorant about the 'Bengal Famine'. Also I know that Churchill was not a liked man among the Irish. Owing to his 'Black and Tan' thugs. I note also that being born in a certain country does not get you past its propoganda, and censorship, one has to look beneath the carpet as it were, to see the filth. So thank you Sir, for doing a great job. Mike Registered 8. 27-11-2008 11:29 Even MORE Churchill crimes Thank you for the information Mike. Indeed we should add to this list of Churchill\'s Crimes that circa 1920 [#16] \"Churchill brought in the Black and [military] to deal brutally with Sinn Fein in Ireland, creating a bitterness that extends to this day (but which hopefully may soon evaporate)\" (see: “Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History”, p152. We could also add to this list [#17] Churchill\'s war-time Government rejected the 1944 scheme to trade the lives of 0.7 million Hungarian Jews with the Nazis for 10,000 trucks and specified amounts of coffee, tea and soap (see \"Advocate for the Dead. The story of Joel Brand\" by Alex Weissberg; Andre Deutsch, London, 1958 Brand; see also Jeol Brand). 0.2-0.5 million Hungarian Jews were murdered by the German Nazis and Hungarian Arrow Cross (see: Gilbert, M. (1969), Jewish History Atlas (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, London). Gilbert, M. (1982), Atlas of the Holocaust (Michael Joseph, London)who estimated 0.2 million; Gilbert: 0.4 million Jews killed at Auschwitz ); 0.45 million Hungarian Jews killed in Jewish Holocaust). Guest 9. 01-12-2008 11:28 0.4 million Hungarian Jews killed Clarification: at the end of post #8, the estimate by Professor Gilbert is of 0.4 million HUNGARIAN Jews killed at Auschwitz (see: 0.4 million Hungarian Jews killed at Auschwitz. The Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum scholars estimate that 1.1 million people died at Auschwitz of whom 90% (1 million) were Jews (see: . Guest 10. 24-05-2009 10:38 0.4 million Hungarian Jews killed It is anti-Semitism to claim that ANYONE other than Jews have been killed en masse! There will be no mention of any other Holocausts, Zionists have the copyright on that, and they beat it to death every day in movies, TV shows, TV movies, evening news, etc. But hey, even someone like Ben Stein admits that Jews run the entertainment industry. How about a movie based on the historical suffering of SOMEONE *ELSE* for a change?! Guest 11. 24-05-2009 11:04 Churchill I am glad that someone has written about this man when Britian was eating bad food him and his cronies dinned well and was in bunkers deep under the ground he was an aristocrat his father died of syphilis his mother and American jumped in and out of bed with the King of England Churchill was a depressive and enjoyed brutality he was seen as a loose cannon as he could not be controlled he was never into the poor in any country but loved the monarchy and was a very close friend of Lord Battenburge(Mountbatten)his grandson is in the British Parliament his names Nicholas Soames not a nice person but believes he has the right to be there. His family have the problem of drinking and suicide the sins of the father visited on the children I would say I am always amazed how these families loose in the end. Guest 12. 24-05-2009 17:42 And after the war...? Let us not forget Churchill's complicity in the many millions of German's starved or shot by the Americans in post WWII Germany under direct orders from the American President himself. And perhaps a mention too of Gandhi's governmental mismanagement that killed some 2.5 million during the forced partition. Guest 13. 25-05-2009 02:33 Don't forget Kenya And then there\'s the crackdown on the Mau Mau rebelion in Kenya... In 1949 Barack Obama\'s grandfather was detained and tortured by the British, under Churchill\'s Prime Ministership. Guest 14. 25-05-2009 04:34 Don't forget Kenya There is no proof of a "Jewish Holocaust". The evidence contradicts the official narrative. So many lies are wrapped into this 'legend' that it is the reason for the powerful Jewish Lobby instigating Laws against those who point out the endless impossibilities intrinsic to the tale. But, on the other hand, Churchill, is a piece of work and is doubtless guilty of much. Guest 15. 25-05-2009 05:39 Jewish Holocaust & WW2 Holocaust The Jewish Holocaust involved the deaths of 5-6 million people, 1 in 6 dying from deprivation (for detailed analyses see: Gilbert, M. (1969), Jewish History Atlas (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, London). Gilbert, M. (1982), Atlas of the Holocaust (Michael Joseph, London)). The Jewish Holocaust was part of a wider European World War 2 Holocaust (30 million Slav, Jewish and Roma deaths). Guest 16. 25-05-2009 10:03 Jewish Holocaust & WW2 Holocaust Sorry but Eisenhower beat Hitler on the Jews... Post WW2 Losses through Eisenhower still classified "Disarmed Enemy Forces" camps. 1.7m Military Personnel - Starved to death or shot, many incidences of torture and heinous abuse 5.6m Civilian's - Died through purposeful starvation and denial of food and medical services It is believed that up to a further 2m may have been handed over to the Russians with many of races/different nationalities dying in the hands of the Russians. It is rumoured that General Patton was killed because he refused to hand his prisoners over to Eisnehowers plan and released them instead provoking much fury from Eisenhower who at the White House threatened Patton including his life. Guest 17. 26-05-2009 10:29 Jewish Holocaust & WW2 Holocaust I believe the appropriate summation of all the comments on this page is aptly summed up in the words of a distant wise man who said, "MAN has dominated MAN to his injury." Guest 18. 27-05-2009 07:20 Jewish Holocaust & WW2 Holocaust What about Churchills bombing of German cites to get the war going? See Captain Ramsey's book 'The Nameless War'. Guest 19. 28-05-2009 17:56 CO2 From hat I recall in 7th grade Ciece clas is that humans inhale air (oxgen, nitrogen, etc) and exhale co2. Trees and a plants absorb co2. The SUN has variouscycles where it emits solar flares and othther cycles involving sun spots. Should humans be exterminated for emitting co2? Guest Write Comment
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