Wow, point made.

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Yeah but the difference is the Jews in Germany werent shooting rockets and bombs at the Nazi's or German people....

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They would, if they could.

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these jews are nuts!

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this is pure BS! 
 
propaganda BS!

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Jews have forgot their history... 
dats why every one hates them...

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Yeah but the difference is the Jews in Germany weren't shooting rockets and bombs at the Nazi's or German people.... 
 
Agreed!..and yeah they could have. What was stoping them?

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wow that is so incentive to the people of Israel or holocaust survivors and what they've been through. to even think of comparing Israel foreign policies to nazi Germany is ridiculous. 
I'm pretty sure the germans didn't stop fighting for 3 hours each day just so that help could be rushed in. the reason why so many civilians were killed in this is because hamas hid themselves in highly populated areas. Israel and Nazi Germany are not even close in the slightest.

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right to defend their own people is major responsibility of each n every country... 
What d fuck is hamas doing during the war...hiding himself and letting their people die...??

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Quote:

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the reason why so many civilians were killed in this is because hamas hid themselves in highly populated areas.

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Give me F%#$ing brake. Everywhere in Gaza is highly populated area. They hit UN school two times for goodness sake.

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shut the fuck up first off the Palestines have been fucking with the jews for past couple 1000s years  
and the palestine as start it . go read books

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baller

Hmmm... is anyone forgetting that the nazi's organized the mass slaughter of humans? I'm not the biggest fan of Israel, but this comparison is absolutely absurd! You could do the same with pictures of what America has done in Iraq and it would be just as poor a comparison.

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Not True

Someone incorrectly said "But Jews weren't shooting rockets at Germany." In fact, Communist groups [run almost exclusively by Jews] took over Bavaria using machine guns and bombs--for six days. Likewise,Emma Goldman--also a Jew--went around advocating assassinations of heads of state. According to Churchill, almost all of the Bolshevik leadership were Jewish. Bela Kuhn--Hungary's dictator--was Jewish, etc. Radicals--who happened to be Jewish--killed millions in the time-period.

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hm

There was no Israel before 1948, ed. There would have been none without english & american "friends" that sent in exile millions of Palestines. Go study.

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hm

Fu**ing jews, even with the best military hardware and training in the world (along with the US' bottomless "financial aid"), you still couldn't go further than a couple of hundred meters. God's chosen people got their asses handed to them (again).  
 
It seems as though your "world class" IDF can only ever dare to win against defenceless kids and old women.  
 
That’s two wars in a row you’ve lost now…the beginning of the end.

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civilians

Sure, Hamas is hiding in civilian areas. I'll even give you this one. But if that's reason enough to start shooting at civilians and bombing civilian areas, then you are absolutely NO better than Hamas. Besides, I think that in this one operation you have killed more civilians than Hamas ever killed in Israel in its entire existence. 
 
Israel has proven to be no better than Hamas, period. If you were civilized, you would've prefered to do NOTHING over slaying innocent men, women and children. Shame on you Israel, and shame on the IDF. You have lost your credibility in the world, so you're on your own now. Good luck.

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civilians

Forget about the past can't change that,it doesn't matter who started it because it just ends up being a back and forth exchange anyways.Anyone can say this thing has been going on for a 100 years but that still is not an excuse for what people can do to change the present and the future for these two nations.

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Comparison

The jews int the holocaust just lived their lives, they didn\'t try to destroy Germany. 
Nazi walls were made to contain, Israeli walls are made to protect. 
In the holocaust the nazis arrested citizens because they were jewish. Israelis arrest TERRORISTS! 
Nazis attacket civilians, Israelis defend civilians. jewish civilians were killed for fun, palestinian civilians get killed because the Hamas use children as shilds! 
Nazis destroyed jomes because they were jewish homes. IDF destroys homes because missiles are being launched from there and tunnels are being dug from them. 
 
There defiantly room for comparison, but it\'s not the same. 
Hamas are terrorists who terrorize both Israeli civilians and palestinians.

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go study??

go study??.. israel was created in the palestine zone... palestines take from crusade`s at medieval time the gods land. and keep it until america create israel. and then they exile the palestine people... what do you will think if you have a land and by the nuts of the americans they take your land and give it to a religion that is opposite of yours... and 50 years after. israel kill civilianz, child. and innocent people... shame of the memories of the jews that survive to WWII.

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Palestinian propaganda

The Palestinian propaganda machine strikes again! 
 
And you keep falling for it! 
Where do these peaceful people get their rockets from? 
Why do Palestinians target citizens? Why do they hide military actions within populated places?

http://www.reparateme.com/story67.html

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Palestinian propaganda

The areas wouldn't be so populated had Israel not forced Palestinians into permanent Refugee camps. Why do Israelis target citizens? Does a UN school look like a big threat to the IDF?

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Palestinian propaganda

Everybody needs to watch this: 
 
http://www.tinyurl.com/occupation101 
 
Please send the link to all of your friends.

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Palestinian propaganda

I must say that the comparison betwenn the fate of the jews in the 2nd world war and the fate of the palestinians now is really over the top. 
BUT EVERYONE WHO SHOUTS PROPAGANDA IS A HUGE FUCKTARD WITH RACIST TENDENCIES. BECAUSE THE PICTURES ON THE RIGHT ARE CERTAINLY ALL FALSE, RIGHT???? THERE IS OF COURSE NO HUMILIATION, RANDOM \\\"COLLATORAL DAMAGES\\\", RANDOM DESTROYING OF THE LIVELHOODS OF THE PALESTINIANS, RIGHT????? NO ATTEMPT TO CONTAIN THEM IN HUGE GHETTOS. SHIT LIFE IN GAZA MUST BE PARADISE. 
I accept that you say that\\\'s all not true but then you are simply a racist. Period

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@23

OR maybe you are racist against the Jews? Doesn't any country have a right to defend itself? So the rockets aren't in this equation huh? I'm an anti-zionist and i can see through this bullshit.

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Never again, no racism, speak out

Very effective and true collage - the camera does notlie.  
 
The racist Zionists of Apartheid Israel are doing in principle in Occupied Palestine what the Nazis did in Nazi-Occupied Europe - the DIFFERENCES lie place, time, peoples and degree, the COMMONALITIES in racism, genocide, might is right, mass murder, mass paedocide, mass imprisonment, gross human rights abuse and anti-Semitism (anti-Arab anti-Semitism by racist Zionists, RZs = Rah-zees, ah-tsees; anti-Jewish anti-Semitism by the Nazis = Nah-zees, Nah-tsees). 
 
The quantitative comparison is between the Nazi Jewish Holocaust (5-6 million dead, 1 in 6 dying from deprivation, mass dispossession, mass displacement and mass imprisonment; this being part of a wider WW2 Holocaust [ignored by racist Zionists and by similarly racist and holocaust-ignoring pro-Zionist media, academics and politicians] in which 30 million Slavs, Jews and Roma died; mass imprisonment in concentration camps) VERSUS the racist Zionist (RZ) Palestinian Holocaust and Palestinian Genocide (0.3 million post-invasion avoidable deaths; 0.2 million post-invasion under-5 deaths; 2,400 under-5 year old infants passively murdered each year; 4,300 Occupied Palestinians passively murdered each year; 700 Occupied Palestinians violently murdered by RZs each year (1 in 5 being CHILDREN); 85% of Christian Occupied Palestinians have fled; mass incarceration of millions in concentration camps [Apartheid-style Bantustans], 1.5 million in the Gaza Concentration Camp alone; 7 million Palestinian refugees; part of a wider Global Avoidable Mortality Holocaust in which 16 million mostly non-Europeans die avoidably each year from deprivation, about 7 million being Muslims in an ongoing Muslim Holocaust). 
 
The core messages from the WW2 Holocaust (30 million Slav, Jewish and Roma dead) are \"zero tolerance for racism\", \"never again to anyone\" and \"bear witness\" - sacred messages adhered to by all decent folk but GROSSLY VIOLATED by the racist Zionists, Apartheid Israel and the evil, genocidal Zionist-backed Bush-ites and neo-Bush-ites involved in the Palestinian Genocide, the Iraqi Genocide and the Afghan Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 0.3 million, 2 million and 4-6 million, respectively; post-invasion under-5 infant deaths 0.2 million, 0.6 million and 2.1 million, respectively; refugees 7 million, 6 million and 4 million, respectively - Palestinian Holocaust, Iraqi Holocaust and Afghan Holocaust and GENOCIDES as defined by Article 2 of the UN Genocide Convention: UN Genocide Convention ).

http://mwcnews.net/gideon-polya

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Reality

Anyone can point to the fact that people died in both situations.  
 
However, as someone pointed out correctly earlier. One group (Israel) is defending itself. One group (NAZI Germany) was controlling another to eventually Kill Them. The Israelis have no "Final Solution" of which the Germans Have.  
 
Who broke the Cease Fire? 
Hammas  
 
Who was trying to pull its own people (the colonists), forcefully out of the Gaza Strip? 
Israel 
 
Additionally, some say that Israel's response was not proportional, and maybe they should let a few rockets hit, only a few Israelis died. But what if they didn't do anything after the first rockets? How hard would it be after the 1000th to then do something?  
 
Many people point out that the English, Americans and other countries set up the modern country of Israel for the Jews to have a safe country for themselves, and that they apparently kicked out the Palestinians. No one seems to mention that the Palestinian people were also kicked out of other countries. If they want to go to their traditional homelands, good luck. Lebanon will not take them. Syria will not take them. Jordan will not take them. Also the original peoples of the Palestine, were not the Muslims that they are today. They were Hebrews, and then Assyrians, and others as well, but not originally Muslims. So to make the claim that it is historically their land would be difficult.  
 
Should Israel let Palestine have its own states? Probably, just as a matter of good will. But is it required to do so, no. 
 
If you notice, Israel is not having the same problem with the West Bank. Maybe we should look to Hamas and it's supplier (IRAN) and tell them to stop halting the process towards peace.  
 
Israel is protecting themselves from Terrorism, and much of the world cries foul. Students on University campuses shout stop the violence with subtle messages of supporting Gaza. Hamas is the beginner of the violence. Israel does not want to hurt the people in Gaza, only those who attack it, Hamas, and they have a right to defend themselves

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JEWS expose Racist Zionist (RZ) LIES

The outrageous Zionist falsehoods in post #26 must be addressed. 
 
1. The over 7 million Palestinians refugees (the biggest single group of refugees in the world today) didn\'t somehow come from \"nowhere\" - in the 1878 Census Jews (indigenous and immigrant) totalled about 5% of the Palestine population of about 0.5 million; by 1947 they represented only 33% of the population; according to top JEWISH Israeli historian Professor Ilan Pappe in his book \"The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine\" , 800,000 Indigenous Palestinians were expelled from Palestine in 1948. 
 
2 According to top JEWISH British historian Professor Sir Martin Gilbert\'s \"Jewish History Atlas\" the \"Jews\" only ruled PARTS of Palestine and then mostly only SMALL PARTS in the periods 1000BC to the Babylonian conquest in 586 BC (apart from the Solomon-David period 1000-925 BC, and then certainly not \"all\"), 165-63 BC (PARTS of Palestine in Hasmonean Jewish Kingdom in Roman- and Greek-dominated Palestine), 66-73 (small parts in the Zealot revolt period). 
The Christian and Muslim Indigenous Palestinians trace continuous occupation over 2 millennia and thence beyond for their forebears. 
 
3. The Catholic Church, top US conservative Pat Buchanan and many others refer to Gaza as a Concentration Camp; outstanding Jewish American scholar Professor Noam Chomsky describes the Occupied Palestinian Territory as a \"Prison\".  
 
4. Outstanding , ex-IDF soldier, Israel Oxford Professor of International Relations, Professor Avi Shlaim 
[see: How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophestates, QUOTE: \"The only way to make sense of Israel\'s senseless war in Gaza is through understanding the historical context. Establishing the state of Israel in May 1948 involved a monumental injustice to the Palestinians ... Israel\'s record over the past four decades makes it difficult to resist the conclusion that it has become a rogue state with \"an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders\". A rogue state habitually violates international law, possesses weapons of mass destruction and practises terrorism - the use of violence against civilians for political purposes. Israel fulfils all of these three criteria; the cap fits and it must wear it. Israel\'s real aim is not peaceful coexistence with its Palestinian neighbours but military domination.\" 
 
4. Zionism is heretical , blasphemous and CONTRARY to Orthodox JUDAISM which believes in a \"kingdom of the mind\" and that return to Zion can only happen when the Moschiach (Messiah) reveals the glory of Adonai (the Lord) to the WHOLE World (see: Orthodox Jews Demand End to Zionist Atrocities in the Middle East.  
 
5.The core messages from the JEWISH Holocaust (5-6 million dead, 1 in 56 dying of deprivation) ate \"zero tolerance for racism\", \"never again to anyone\" and \"bear witness\" - sacred HOLOCAUST messages egregiously violated by the racist Zionists (RZs) running the Nazi-style, Apartheid-style, race-based state of Apartheid Israel. 
 
6. Outstanding JEWISH American scholar Professor Jared Diamond is clear in his climate warnings and in stating in his best-selling book “Collapse” (Prologue, p10, Penguin edition) the “moral principle, namely that it is morally wrong for one people to dispossess, subjugate, or exterminate another people.” 
 
7. Half the Occupied Palestinian are children and three quarters women and children - yet over 1,300 Gazans have been murdered in reprisals for ZERO (0) Israeli deaths from rockets in the preceding year, a civilian targetting war crime according to outstanding JEWISH American law professor and President of the US National Guild of Lawyers Professor Marjorie Cohn: Israel’s Collective Punishment of Gaza. 
 
8. And yet the genocidally violent, anti-Arab anti-Semitic racist Zionists (RZs) scream :\"anti-Semitism\" even when anti-racist JEWISH humanitarians object to Israel human rights abuses (the 4 million illegally imprisoned Occupied Palestinians have been deprived by the RZs of ALL human rights set out in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights). Below is what outstanding JEWISH American scholar Professor Bertell Olmert has to say about racist Zionist anti-Arab anti-Semtitism (noting that RZ identification of evil, racist Zionist crimes with ALL Jews is flagrantly anti-Jewish anti-Semitism\") (see: Professor Bertell Ollman on Zionist anti-Semitism), Quote : \"Furthermore, if Zionism is indeed a particularly virulent form of nationalism and, increasingly, of racism and if Israel is acting toward its captive minority in ways that resemble more and more how the Nazis treated their Jews, then we must also say so. For obvious reasons, the Zionists are very sensitive about being compared to the Nazis (not so sensitive that it has restrained them in their actions but enough to bellow \"unfair\" and to charge \"anti-Semitism\" when it happens). Yet, the facts on the ground, when not obscured by one or another Zionist rationalization, show that the Zionists are the worst anti-Semites in the world today, oppressing a Semitic people as no nation has done since the Nazis \". 
 
9.Yet the racist, lying, holocaust-ignoring, Zionist-beholden Mainstream media, academics and politicians of thr Western Murdochracies take their advice from evil, traitorous, genocidal racist Zionists (RZs), IGNORING the expert, humane opinions of outstanding anti-racist, humanitarian JEWISH scholars around the World - scholars who are not just IGNORED but also THREATENED by FALSE racist Zionist identification of Apartheid Israeli crimes with ALL Jews.  
 
10. The racist Zionist (RZ) terrorists of nuclear terrorist rogue state Apartheid Israel and their traitorous Western supporters supporters not only kill and endanger children, women, Palestinians, Arabs, and Asians and not only pervert the values of the Western democracies (now perverted pro-racism, pro-genocide, polit-cally correct racist, democratic Nazi Murdochracies)- through their sustained LYING they have created a Western Culture of Lying and Ignoring that has so far been unable to deal with the ongoing Global Avoidable Mortality Holocaust (16 million people, 7 million of them Muslims in an ongoing Muslim Holocaust, die each year from deprivation) and from the Climate Genocide (that according to top UK climate scientist Professor James Lovelock will kill all but 500 million people this century due to unaddressed man-made global warming). 
 
The evil racist Zionists (RZs) and the RZ-backed Bush-ites and neo-Bush-ites must be exposed for the genocidal, racist mass murderers and LIARS that they are - and sidelined from public life as have been the Nazis, neo-Nazis and KKK (indeed outstanding JEWISH American investor and philanthropist George Soros has demanded the \"de-nazification\" of Bush America) (see: George Soros – Bush America needs de-Nazification ).

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When claiming falsehoods, make sure your

To the Dr. 
 
Not every individual who believes in the Israeli state is a \"Zionist racist.\" You are correct in that the Hebrews only controlled parts of Palestine, but those were the areas that they are in currently. There was a United Kingdom of Israel. That was in the area known as Palestine. Other areas in Palestine included Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria.  
 
The comment about the Christians and Muslims being able to trace their heritage back two millennium is not quite true. Their genetic heritage is there, but not religious. Christianity started originally as a Jewish sect in the first century. Islam did not sprout till the Prophet Muhammad began his teachings around the 7th century AD. 
 
So if we want to get technical, your facts are wrong.  
 
Furthermore, Israelis have died from the rockets. The number is smaller than that of the Palestinians, but both sides have had casualties. Also, as other had pointed out, the reason for so many civilian casualties, is because Hamas is a group of cowards (my personal opinion) who hide among the civilians.  
 
To try and claim that no Israelis have died is just incorrect.  
 
Calling everyone who believes in Israel a racist does not help your point. It makes you look narrow minded.  
 
So although you try to point my falsehoods, you should look to the facts before doing so. I also again want to point out that I believe that the Muslim Palestinians should have their own state. But Israel should not be forced to compromise their own safety to do so. They should not be compared to Hitler\'s Nazis for reasons I previously mentioned. Their goal is not to destroy the Muslims, although they could at any moment. It is because of the West, which you so criticize that Israel does not do so.

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Racist Zionists: Nazi is as Nazi does

Setting up a race-based colony in the country of another People and then ethnic cleansing of the Indigenous People (7 million Palestinian refugees) is about as racist as racist gets - and specifically,in the case of racist Zionist-run Apartheid Israel anti-Arab anti-Semitic. 
 
And justifying this Nazi-style genocide by FALSE reference to the Torah is obscene, heretical, blasphemous and indeed about as anti-Jewish anti-Semitic by falsely dirtying the name of Judaism as you can get (indeed Orthodox Judaism REJECTS the Zionist racist perversion). 
 
What matters is not what allegedly was the case (uncredentialled, anonymous, pro-Zionist blogger VERSUS outstanding JEWISH historian Professor Sir Martin Gilbert) 2,900 years ago (under Nazi-style, racist and genocidal Saul, David and Solomon), 1,900 years ago (Christian and other Palestinians, \"Jews\" having been expelled by the Romans), 1,300 years ago (Palestine mostly Muslim with a major Christian minority) or 130 years ago (Jews 5% of the Palestine population). 
 
What matters TODAY are the HUMAN RIGHTS of the Indigenous Palestinians imprisoned and grossly abused on the basis of their RACE by racist Zionist (RZ)-run Apartheid Israel for 60 years e.g. over 1,300 killed recently by the latter-day Nazi Israeli racists as reprisal for the ZERO (0) Israeli deaths from Gazan rockets in the preceding year.  
 
While the evil Nazis advocated and observed a \"reprisal death ratio of 10\" (e.g. in the 1944 Ardeatine Cave reprisals massacre), the racist Zionists now in practice observe a \"reprisals death ratio\" of 1,300/0 = INFINTY - surely the ULTIMATE in racism. 
 
Nazi is as Nazi does - and worse than Nazi does is worse than Nazi is.  
 
Indeed this current obscene Israeli \"reprisals death ratio\" of INFINITY suggests that use of terms such as Nazi, quasi-Nazi or neo-Nazi to describe Apartheid Israeli actions is inaccurate and inadequate - that \"supra-Nazi\" or \"ultra-Nazi\" would be more appropriate.  
 
Readers of this thread will have to decide between the documented views of the outstanding, humanitarian JEWISH scholars (history, law, political science, linguistics) quoted in post #27 VERSUS variously false, uncredentialled, undocumented, unsubstantiated, pro-Zionist views of an anonymous pro-Israeli blogger.

http://mwcnews.net/gideon-polya

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First terrorist group in History was jew

Gå til Dagbladet.no onsdag 21. jan 2009, so du skal vite at den første terroristgruppen var jødisk.

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TRUTH

THIS IS REALLY VERY GOOD. 
 
SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. 
 
TELL THE TUTH TO THE WORLD

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TRUTH

Fuck Hamas. 
Fuck anti-semitism. 
God will judge us all.

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Zion

Jude.....fear our wrath

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Meaningless blame game!

This terrible war has to stop right now!!! The pictures, both on the left and the right side, demonstrate terrible heart-breaking realities. To stop this shit, we have to focus on the big picture and stop arguing about who did what yesterday or ; even worse; for many maaaaany years ago. Don´t you feel any pain in you when you look at all the cruelty shown in all the pictures?  
So please, let´s start looking at solutions to live together instead of the whole meaningless blame game. It doesn’t solve anything. Don’t you see that civilians on both sides are suffering due to the political leaders’ unwillingness to lose power? It is as usual all about the power struggle and of course as always the civilians are the ones suffering.  
What is needed here is for individuals to stop all the hatred and start co-existing with each other. Don’t let the political leaders abuse you for their own gain and interests. Neither of these leader care for others and for the long-term solutions. If they did, they would calm down the hatred instead of firing it up. They would work for co-operation instead of all their power protection activities. 
So please, don’t lose the big picture, which is that we need to stop all this suffering for everybody involved.

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Meaningless blame game????

Ther is only one solution - the Final one....

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First terror group was not Jewish

Haha, John Mor, du vet jo ingen ting. Artikkelen handlet om Lehi (Stern-gjengen), som ble etablert i 1940, mens Etzel (Irgun) ble etablert i 1931.  
Allerede på tidlig 1920-tall hadde sjeik Izz ad-Din al-Qassam trent islamister som fra 1929 fikk grønt lys fra mufien av Damaskus til å utføre terroraksjoner mot sivile. Gruppen, kjent som al-Kaff al-Aswad, opererte fra da og frem til al-Qassams død i 1935. 
 
Utenfor regionen har det også eksistert en rekke terrorgrupper, fortrinnsvis av anarkistisk natur, flere tiår tidligere, så at Stern-gjengen skal ha vært de første terrorister får du ta opp med legen din. 
 
In short; al-Kaff al-Aswad was established a decade before Lehi, and years before Etzel.

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Holocaust

In an interview a few months ago the israeli prime minister he said something like if hamas did not end the rocket shooting he would bring holocaust down on the palestines... So, by that he has put the israelis in the position of the nazis.  
 
Israel operates as a mix of the south african apartheid regime and nazi germany. 
 
THE ONLY WAY TO RESOLVE THIS AND PUT SOME PRESSURE ON ISRAEL IS A BROAD GLOBAL BOYCOTT OF ALL ISRAELI PRODUCTS AND SERVICES!

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Holocaust

What happend to stop the history from repeting itself again? Have we forgotten 2. world war? There seems to be no limit for what we can do to eachother. Both the palestines and the israelians have forgotten what they are fighting about, it's mostly about revenge now. Terrorisme against terrorisme.

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Fundamental values.

There's something fundamentally wrong with the situation that's been going on for ages in the middle east. I don't belive in violence as a solution, rather forgiveness. Once in the future one nation have to lay down their weapons and respect the others beliefs, hopefully others will follow. This is a task which demands both courage and stupidity, but as I see it the only solution to a never ending "revengemania".

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Non-racism & equality for peace NOW

Very well said in post #34 above by Josefin Ayani and in post #39 by BH - a very sensible, humane view is that the killing has to stop NOW with security, equality, justice and reconciliation as in post-Apartheid South Africa. 
 
However what people must recognize is that the killing is both ACTIVE (bombs and bullets that kill about 700 Occupied Palestinians each years VERSUS about 140 Israelis) and PASSIVE through deprivation (Occupier blockade of Gaza and other Occupier non-provision of food and medical requisites demanded by the Geneva Convention kills about 2,400 under-5 year old Occupied Palestinian infants and 4,300 Occupied Palestinians in total EACH YEAR). 
 
The solution for South Africa was non-racism and human rights for all - and what followed was peace with justice, equality and reconciliation.  
 
The same can happen in the Holy Land - thus an INTERIM \"2-state\" peace with non-racism, equality, justice and reconciliation can happen TOMORROW with mutual and internationally guaranteed total security for all; return to 1967 borders; freedom of all inhabitants to travel unimpeded anywhere in the Holy Land; racism banned; genuine reconciliation as in post-Apartheid South Africa (e.g. see Interim Peace Plan for Israel-Palestine).  
 
Unfortunately, the racist Zionists running Apartheid Israel are philosophically committed to ferocious, genocidal racism. As pointed out by ex-IDF soldier, Jewish Israeli , Oxford University professor in International Relations Professor Avi Shlaim (see: How Israel brought Gaza to the brink of humanitarian catastrophe), QUOTE: \"review of Israel\'s record over the past four decades makes it difficult to resist the conclusion that it has become a rogue state with \"an utterly unscrupulous set of leaders\". A rogue state habitually violates international law, possesses weapons of mass destruction and practises terrorism - the use of violence against civilians for political purposes. Israel fulfils all of these three criteria; the cap fits and it must wear it. Israel\'s real aim is not peaceful coexistence with its Palestinian neighbours but military domination. It keeps compounding the mistakes of the past with new and more disastrous ones \". END QUOTE.

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Non-racism & equality for peace NOW

wake up world, to stop Israels horrible actions as well as hamas horrible actionas, it isent enough condemning the attacks from both sides, boycott israel, and put both parts in charge of their actionas. Why waite, havent we waited long enough 60 years, thats plenty of time.

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truth has many faces

i spent time in israel 20 years ago. i met many good isrealis, but also sionist nationalists htat only wanted to throw the paestinians to the sea. i am not surprised about these pictures, and i think it's a true comparison. the most disgusting picture, is the girl writing on the bomb... With love... brainwashing the children, that's a true crime

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truth has many faces

there is more blood in Africa in any of these areas.. 
 
We seem to forget that.. is it because they are black!??  
 
Hamas is wrong, Israel is wrong..  
the whole world is wrong.

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horible

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What's wrong with you?

I'm in a state of chok! - how can anybody compare the Holocaust to the things that happens in Israel? It can only be peolpe who are not familiar with the History!!!! Shame on you!

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the rools?

shut the fuck up first off the Palestines have been fucking with the jews for past couple 1000s years  
and the palestine as start it . go read books 
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ed 
 
 
hey ed, how can the palestinians have been the one that started it 1000 years ago, when the israel jewish sionists claims that palestinians are not a group of people, but some name they invented just some years ago. jewish people contradict them selfs all the time. and by the way, read the books? what books? kafka? maybe you should read the tora. in the tora, your own jewish scripts, it\\\\\\\'s said that israel is not for living in, it\\\\\\\'s just for going trought, like a synagog or mosque or church

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the rools?

Well I have read all of the above comments and the main comparison done here is showing same actions are being carried out on the palestianians now as it has been on the jewish. 
The comparison done has nothing to do with numbers and in both cases, citizans were and are the innocent people.  
So still even if Hamas people are cowards, this is no justifications killing the kids, and old people; those that are severly burned with what some leaders suspect with phoshporous weapons. 
I guess the logical actions that must be taken is that been posted #34

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the rools?

Stop Israel

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Shame on Israel!

Israellis should be ashamed of themselves! 
 
If I was living in Israel I would rather go to jail than to be a part of this barbarious warmachine!

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Shame on Israel!

The difference here is the use of pictures, from the second war they show teh execution of a policy of genocide, in the Gaza they show unforntunate sivilians caount in the midts of warefare, with the Israeli forces trying ot avoid it, and the Hamas hiding between the civilians.

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Reply

\"hm 
There was no Israel before 1948, ed. There would have been none without english & american \"friends\" that sent in exile millions of Palestines. Go study.\" 
 
Hmm 
http://encarta.msn.com/media_461532970/kingdom_of_israel.html 
 
Go study ;-)

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Reply

I hope they will kill you for that.

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nothing new here. Wake up USA

we have seen this in the book "The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians" (see Amazon). 
For extermination see the book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine ". 
If norwegian see the same info at http://informasjon.wordpress.com/slow-motion-holocaust/

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"baller 
Hmmm... is anyone forgetting that the nazi's organized the mass slaughter of humans? " 
 
No, and the Palestinians was eager to help. 
 
(footage of Mufti roughly 50 seconds in) Leader of the "palestinian" movement in the early to mid 20th century. Ally, recruiter and radio propagandist for the Nazi regime, this video shows the Mufti meeting with Hitler to arrange the creation of death camps in the Arab world which would be his tools for the extermination of Middle East Jews, pledge support of the Arab-Islamic Ummah to the Nazi regime and to discuss the progress of the Muslim Nazi [Handschar] divisions. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m2OzEvyrsw 
 
Great Arab Leaders I - The Palestinian Mufti and Hitler 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iJvZURsXus

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These picktures seems to be pretty much the same. Jews are hated since the morning of time, maybe if they start behaving like humans and not like animals one day they will be respected. Are there a reason for the hate of jewish people since Jesus was born?

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Scary people here.

You people are sick in the head. Such hate for anyone is bad. I blame both sides. Both make mistakes. But must I choose a neighboor I would 100 times over pick a jew. He is close to my culture and truly wants peace. The muslim I cannot understand culturally and he hates my very existance. I think the equation is easy. I I must pick a side. I support Israel 100%. Casualties you will allways have. But this comparrisson is totally wrong. Its cant be compared this way. Yes the pictures are similar but the situation is not. This is like the old fashiom propaganda. I did not think people still fell for this. And when it comes to the UD employee spreading this he/she should get jail time. This is as of jan 1st 2009 illegal to spread in Norway. I think we have our first victim to this new law. A law introduced to curb our freedom of speach. It is a threat to the free world. It comes from the muslim world where freedom is just a word. I am not surprised the UD is passive to her/him. UD has no western employees. It is eaten up by muslims and now protected by the corrupted and criminal lawyer Abid Q Raya. A man that got his half uncle off the charges of killing his own daughter in an \"honor killing\". Abid Q Raya should be in jail. He is guilty and has publically stated he is in favour of Sharia Law.  
My culture was once part of Europe. I no longer recognize my herritage. Weak and defenceless agaist the muslim cruzade. I am angry with my brothers and sisters. For we will loose our cultural herritage and future prosperity if we give in to the muslim culture of destruction and cultural retardation of it people. Sharia in EU. I see it comming and we are to few to stop it as it is today. I would love a United states of Europe with all cultures accepting each other. We cant as long as this hate is ongoing. Hey people; assimilate, tollerate and negotiate.  
If that does not work. Lats do it the muslim way. Lets barter! I suggest we give hte muslim world all of Israel in trade Disney will recreate a better and safer Israel in EU. We call it Israel by Disney. All new and improved. Then we take all the jews into EU and return all arabs and muslims to Israel. Its a fair trade. We get knowledge and prosperity - They get sosical wellfare clients and trouble makers. End of discussion.

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\\\"Jens Hansen 
I hope they will kill you for that.\\\" 
 
Who are \\\"they\\\" and why do u hope so? 
;)

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Re: max.solheim - Censorship laws

\"This is as of jan 1st 2009 illegal to spread in Norway. I think we have our first victim to this new law. A law introduced to curb our freedom of speach. It is a threat to the free world. It comes from the muslim world where freedom is just a word.\" 
 
No Max you are definitely wrong. 
 
Almost all anti-free speech legislation comes from Jewish organizations directly in many cases, indirectly in some cases by means of lobby groups. 
 
Here is some documentation about different countries. 
 
Start with England, follow links at the bottom for USA, Canada, Holland and Ireland. (Perhaps it\'s different in Norway, but it seems very typical that the anti-muslim activist / Israel apologist, Hans Rustad (Jewish) declared that he is against freedom of speech concerning \'holocaust denial\'. He also deletes Jew critical posts on his blog, and bans the author) 
 
Jewish Involvement in Immigration and Hate Speech Legislation - Britain

http://blog.balder.org

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This is typical that Israel, in the name of protecting its citizens, kill civilians and call it \"right to deffend itself.\" As if only Israel has this right and not others. This rediculas. The Palestinian people has this right as well. Although Israel denis them this right. They call the palestinians who fight against them for terrorist. What about Israel itself, who kills children and civilians? Isn\'t it the great terror by itself? Let us ask ourselves for once: Why Israel does this? Is it really that only civilians in Israel get killed? Every Israeli is a reserve soldier and not a civilian. Even the children they raise them to be soldiers and they teach them to hate and kill palestinians. There are a lot of examples and things to discuss. But it will take years to talk about it. And one more thing. The pictures shown are true and not false as some of you declare. Don't deny it.

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"Animal farm" of George Orwell explains what happens to people getting in power. History seems to repeat itself.

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To me it seems like there is a state that claims that their right to posess a certain area, beside their own claimed heritage,is granted through a UN resolution. 
When this state then neglect to fulfill later given UN resolutions, because they don't accept the authority of UN. 
Why not release them from obligations to ALL UN resolutions, including the one that originally gave them already inhabitated land?

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max.solheim, you say that you support the jews 100% and that theyr culture is closer to ours, may be, but thats because they have been part of our and many others nations for decades. 
And yes, they were in many cases harassed and looked upon as "enemy of the state" (so much for close cultural ties...). 
But this is a conflict in the middle east, far away from our "festung Norge", and thus does not our views on "whos culture is closer to ours" make any sense. This is an area of the world where theyr culture is more related to arabic culture than norse/protestant christianity religion. 
And quote :"UD has no western employees. It is eaten up by muslims and now protected by the corrupted and criminal lawyer Abid Q Raya. A man that got his half uncle off the charges of killing his own daughter in an \"honor killing\". Abid Q Raya should be in jail. He is guilty and has publically stated he is in favour of Sharia Law"... where do you dig up this bullshit? A link to the Senior administrative staff of UD http://www.regjeringen.no/en/dep/ud/about_mfa/senior-administrative-staff-2.html?id=856. 
Can you find any non-ethnic norwegians ? 
And Abid Q Raya, who got his half uncle off the charges, hes a lawyer goddamnit. If his half uncle really is guilty in the murders, blame the court or the norwegian law , not the brilliant lawyer whos job is to clear his client of the charges, i say it again : its hes goddamn proffesion. 
Ill conclude this post with : " if i had to chose between Israelis, palestinians or mr.max.solheim, i would 100 times over pick BOTH the Palestinian AND the Israeli, max.solheim (and the likes of him)and his view on culture is light years away from my view on culture...

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Shame on Israel! 
The difference here is the use of pictures, from the second war they show teh execution of a policy of genocide, in the Gaza they show unforntunate sivilians caount in the midts of warefare, with the Israeli forces trying ot avoid it, and the Hamas hiding between the civilians.

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Shame on you, Brynjulv Haga. 
 
What you represent is the typical Norwegian conservative, and mostly insane, christians who cannot see that Israel, the people of God, ever make mistakes. 
 
Unfortunately you are not alone, but believe you me, we are many, many Norwegians who will fight you, who will tell the world what hypocrits you are and who will support the Palestinians right to a safe homeland! 
 
Again, shame on you, Brynjulv, you almost make me ashamed of being Norwegian.

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Difference between Palestinians and Jews

How many rockets did the jews send towards Nazi-Germany? How many terrorist actions did the jews perform in Nazi-Germany? Did the jews have an agenda stating as a goal the destruction of Germany?  
Even if the Israelis have committed injusticies against the Palestinensians (and no doubt they have), the current situation is in no way comparable to the situation og the jews in Nazi-Germany. 
 
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Difference between Palestinians and Jews

:cry :cry  
wtf is going on in peoples mind? 
children?? what did they ever do wrong?? 
they havent lived their life long enough to do anything wrong!! 
they are trusting us adults to take care and be the safe part of life!  
there are other ways to make problems go away,and killing eatchother is NOT the way to do it! 
i cry when i see the children suffer for the adults mistakes!! 
God help this people, and specally the childrens!!

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Difference between Palestinians and Jews

THE COMPARISON IS OBSCENE. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS. The JEWS MURDERED NEVER PRACTISED TERRORISM AGAINST GERMANY. They did not even preach the yihad against them. There are absent the photos of the Israeli victims of his attempts in buses, restaurants .. etc. Germany never offered them a country. The ideology most similar to the nazi, today, is the islamist one.

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Israelis kill 2,400 OPT kids annually

Well said, "girl 82" (post #65). 
 
Consult UNICEF data (see: UNICEF information by country) and you will discover that Apartheid Israel deliberately but passively murders 2,400 Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT) under-5 year old infants EACH YEAR - this estimated assuming from comparative data that 80% of the 3,000 annual under-5 year old Occupied Palestinian Territory infant deaths are AVOIDABLE and due to Occupier refusal to supply life-sustaining food and medical supplies as demanded by Articles 55 and 56 of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War ( see: Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War). 
 
It can be similalry estimated that the Israelis passively murder a total of about 4,300 Occupied Palestinians EACH YEAR via deliberately-imposed DEPRIVATION (cf. 1 in 6 of the 5-6 million Jews killed by the Nazis in WW2 died from DEPRIVATION, according to top JEWISH historian Professor Sir Martin Gilbert). 
 
50% of the Occupied Palestinian Territory population are CHILDREN and 75% women and children. 
 
Yet the death toll due to Israeli state terrorism (Ralph Nader's terminology: State Terrorism Against Gaza) in Apartheid Israel's latest atrocity inflicted on Gaza (what Ralph Nader calls an "open air prison" and the Catholic Church and top US conservative Pat Buchanan call a "concentration camp"): as of Day 23 ( several days ago) over 1,310 Gazans killed VERSUS ZERO (0) Israelis killed by Gaza rockets in the previous year (n Israeli "reprisals death ratio" of INFINITY as compared to that of 10 ordered by Hitler and executed in the Ardeatine Massacre, Rome, 1944).  
 
Anyone who ignores, denies, excuses, minimizes, obfuscates, advocates, supports or is otherwise complicit in horrendous crimes against women and children (as in Apartheid Israeli state terrorism against the Gaza Concentration Camp inmates - or indeed against anyone) has crossed the line between decent Humanity and Nazi-style barbarism.

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Israelis kill 2,400 OPT kids annually

As a born again Christian clearly convinced the Bible is Gods word to us, it is clear that the Jews, his people will be pursecuted until the day Jesus comes back. But I also see from his word that we must pray for and support the state of Israels existence. Jesus was a Jew. All Jews will become born again before the time has come. How can you discuss with surrounding countries/populations who want to eliminate your country, who want the Jews removed from the Earth's surface? And these are facts, that many muslims have these thoughts, and Israel can unfortunately never rest in peace, there is always some people against them. And they have done absolutely nothing to deserve this except for being born Jew. Is this fair? The muslims have also the right to be there and to be treated fairly, but then stop the suicide bommings, putting your children as frotline so they are killed, stop the antisemitism in your countries. Stop declaring the holy war, stop claiming your religion is non violent. This is all not true. It is not the individual him/herself but the religion itself that is so dangerous. Have you seen a Jew or heard a Jew in Europe giving death threats towards muslims living here? Attacking or damging a mosque? Demonstrating and then destroying cars and windows? Have you seen a Jew or heard a Jew in Europe stating publicly racist comments re muslims? The answer is no. They are not provoking or using violence here at all, this is coming from the muslim side. And therefore for me there stops any discussion of who is right or wrong in Gaza. Imagine the situation would be different? How would they react do you think? Not as peaceful as the Jews I believe. May God bless and protect the Jewish people and the State of Israel.

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Israelis kill 2,400 OPT kids annually

hitler knew somthing i suspect. 
jews make me paranoid.

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please...

This is a pure propaganda. 
Actually, if I had something to compare here - it definitely was this propaganda in comparison to the Nazi propaganda.

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Thanks for posting the images!

Thank you for enlightening us with the pictures everyone is talking about!

http://steinhaug.minprofil.no/2009/01/hvor-er-bildene-vis-oss-e-posten/

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Thanks for posting the images!

RE:Najeh Haddad 
 
"Is it really that only civilians in Israel get killed?" 
 
No some soldiers get killed as well.  
 
"Every Israeli is a reserve soldier and not a civilian." 
Wrong 
"Even the children they raise them to be soldiers and they teach them to hate and kill palestinians." 
 
Like this? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNE__TiMZo 
 
"There are a lot of examples and things to discuss." 
 
Yes indeed ;-)

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Awesome piece of political artwork

It is ridiciolus how some people keep insisting that this genocide/massacre/warcrime is something the Palestiniens have brought onto themselves.. 
Israel used force to occupate, 
overtake and drive out the palestinians,so NOMATTER how many missiles og suicidebombs,it  
will always be a justified and fully legit fight from a people who will no bend over or let bygones be bygones..And why should they...No many of us would either.. 
One have to be really bias,a rascist or even worse, to blame this patetic and very sad second holocaust on the Palestinians

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Onesided

First of all to compare Israel with Nazi Germany is crazy. If Israel was like Nazi Germany there would be no Palestinians left in Gaza nor in The West Bank. 
Next, I was wondering where the pictures are of the victims of the bus and cafe bombings carried out by the heroric warriors of Hamas and other fractions claiming to fight for the Palestinian people. 
Realisticly, the arab nations have never succeeded in defeating Israel so maybe instead of keep going down the track where they are going now, they should try to actually keep their word and control their people when a ceasefire has been established. 
Everybody seems to believe that it is ok to fire rockets into Israel and then scream and shout when Israel fires back! 
Israel exists, live with it because it will not change. 
Where are the Treblinka (2), Sorbibor and Belsez that would make it possible to compare Israel with Nazi Germany? 
These 3 camps were pure extermination camps killing thousands daily.  
To compare the two is just a farce! 
There are faults on both sides. Both sides bring up their children teaching them to hate the other so what else is new? 
There are victims on both sides!

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If you don't know history, this pictures is an exellent way to tell "true" lies about Holocaust.

http://www.husfilosofen.no

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Nazi = Israel

There is no difference in the way that Germnay treated jews in the 2WW and the way that Israel is treating palestinians today.  
 
Some of you say that the Jews did not launch rockets or blow them selfs up, you need to read history because this was the case in deed. 
 
This satetement is said by the founding father of the Israeli state: 
 
“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” – (David Ben-Gurion, May 1948. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar) 
 
Even before the abovementioned words were uttered by Ben Gurion, and before the establishment of Israel: terrorism, assassination and propaganda were the primary tools of the Jewish immigrants arriving from Europe and Russia. Ironically, many of them were fleeing persecution but upon their arrival they began to persecute another innocent nation! These Jewish (Zionist) terrorists organised themselves into groups and one of the earliest one was called the “Haganah”; its members included the likes of Yitzhak Rabin, Ariel Sharon and Moshe Dayan. From “Haganah”, the “Irgun” gang was formed by the more fanatical right-wing members; the group was later led by Menachem Begin. However, the “Irgun” gang also split in 1940; their off-shoot was called the “Lehi” also known by the British as the “Stern Gang”, named after its leader Avraham Stern.  
 
All of these terrorist groups terrorised the indigenous Muslim/Arabs, driving them out of their lands. This is the source of the problem, the root of the Arab-Israeli conflict: foreigners who have sought refuge in the land of olive (Palestine – “Bilad az-Zaytun”), turn violent on the indigenous population. These ungrateful Zionist terrorists also attacked the British occupational forces, despite the fact that it was the British government who facilitated their ‘settlement’ in these lands. They bombed King David Hotel, killing 91 people that comprised largely of British civilians. Menachem Begin of the Stern Gang was wanted by the British authorities for his criminal activities.  
 
After the establishment of Israel, the “Irgun” gang led by Menachem Begin became the right-wing Likud Party, while the “Haganah” terrorists and the criminal Stern gang integrated to form the Israeli Defence Force (IDF). Therefore, Israel is a terrorist state by its nature; its institutions were born out of the terrorism of terrorist groups and theft of Arab/Muslim lands. Israel continues to function in this mode, terrorising the region for the ultimate goal of building Eretz (greater) Israel. The map issued by Begin’s Irgun gang is proof of that vision of creating Eretz Israel, when Israel was not even born. Menachem Begin explicitly stated this in 1947: 
 
“Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel, all of it and for ever.” 
 
However, international situation prevents Israel from achieving this goal of building Eretz Israel immediately; this is a long term objective that is being undertaken with careful planning. To weaken the surrounding Arab countries is one essential milestone for achieving this objective. Thus, dismantling of Iraq, incursion into Syria and Lebanon, eventual annihilation of the Palestinians, preparing to attack Iran, Somalia and Syria, then eventually Saudi Arabia and Sudan, all aid that objective of building Eretz Israel, even though other factors are driving those events. Not surprisingly the fanatical neo-cons (Zionists) are the real architects of this aggressive US foreign policy that is design to weaken the Arab/Muslim countries. 
 
Eretz Israel is the goal, and terrorism is the method. It was the Zionists who introduced these methods, like the European colonisers introduced chicken pox to the peaceful native population in the Americas and Australia. Zionists even openly admitted of their intention of using terrorism, the aforementioned words of Ben-Gurion and the underground newspaper of the Stern Gang explicitly stated this: “Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can negate the use of terror as a means of battle.” After the birth of this illegitimate child called Israel, terrorism of groups and individuals was replaced by state-terrorism. 
 
However, since 1948, Israel has managed to portray itself as a victim of terrorism, instead of being the real perpetrator, while Israel’s victims have been systematically turned into terrorists. This reversal of the image was achieved primarily by the media-terrorists of the west, and this continues till today by their one-sided media coverage. Zionists of all colours to the government of Israel are given maximum air-time, while the Arab voices are given minimal time, if any at all.  
 
And I can keep on writing.... 
 
Please read history and then say your stupid opinion.

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The comparison is spurious at best. One can make this montage using photos of most conflicts. . . The main difference is that the people on the black and white photos died in the gas chambers while the "Palestinians" are mostly traumatised and live in abject poverty without freedom of movement.  
 
The prevalence for using emotionally charged expressions such as; "genocide", "massacre", "holocaust", "Nazis" exclusively regarding the Gaza conflict is sucking the very meaning out of these words. As a historian, comparing two completely different historical settings is considered rather pedestrian.  
 
All in all, I'm surprised that this tremendous amount of concern is thrown at this marginal conflict while the war in Congo lingers in obscurity. Three times the total amount of inhabitants of the Gaza-strip have been killed there.  
 
Where are the rallies and demonstration for their cause? Where are the cries for action and international condemnation? It is a rather telling example of the myopic and hypocritical nature of the global armchair-activists nature.

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Racist Zionists (RZs) & Nazis compared

Clearly the Nazi atrocities in continent-scale Nazi-occupied Europe (5-6 million Jews killed, with 1 in 6 dying from deprivation in the Jewish Holocaust and 30 million Slav, Jewish and Roma dead in the Holocaust as a whole) are vastly GREATER than the violent and non-violent Occupied Palestinian avoidable deaths of about 10,000 and 300,000, respectively (as compared to 2,200 Israelis killed by Palestinians, 1967-2009). 
 
However the common elements between Nazism in Germany and racist Zionism in Apartheid Israel include (1)obsessive racism, (2) war criminal invasion of other countries, (3) occupation of other countries, (4) devastation of other countries, (5) mass imprisonment of whole populations in concentration camps, (6) mass murder, (7) disproportionate reprisals death ratios, (8) genocide commission, (9) genocide denial and (10) fanatical LYING. 
 
The Nazi atrocity with which I am most familiar is the murder or 0.2-0.4 million Hungarian Jews (including most of my wider family) out of a population of 0.7 million Hungarian Jews in 1944-1945 (passively assisted by Zionist and pro-Zionist Churchill opposition to the Brand plan to save the Hungarian Jews: pro-Zionist Churchill and racist Zionists scuppered Brand plan to save Hungarian Jews ). Most of the survivors and their progeny fled Hungary and Europe post-war or later in 1956. The property of the survivors was confiscated by the Hungarian State (Fascist and Communist), this dispossession being recently endorsed by the EU to permit Hungarian entry into the EU. 
 
By way of comparison, the race-based , racist Zionist (RZ) Palestinian Genocide has involved 0.8 million Palestinian refugees in 1948; post-1967 excess deaths totalling 0.3 million; confiscation of most of Arab land, homes, villages, towns, and even cities (Jaffa, Acre and Jerusalem); 7 million Palestinian refugees today; and continuing ethnic cleansing and Nazi-style, civilian – targeting violence by Apartheid Israel with US, UK, White Australian and EU country support (see: Nazi Germany-Apartheid Israel comparisons. Israeli Enemy/Israeli death ratios exceed Nazi Enemy/Nazi death ratios ).  
 
That vastly more people have died in the horrendous, ongoing, US-backed Congo war (1960-1997 US-backed Mobutu era excess deaths 16.5 million; 1994-2009 civil war excess deaths about 13 million; see \"Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950: ) is essentially irrelevant to humane discussion of US-backed Apartheid Israeli atrocities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (except insofar as the US and its \"dirty work\" surrogate Apartheid Israel are involved).

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Racist Zionists (RZs) & Nazis compared

Well, the pictures are obviously different. The mocking Palestinians- victim of Arab strategy, they are put in camp because of Arab strategy, not because of Israel - are not about to die. Some die, but that is in a war- they die because they are used as shields for a fascist regime. I do pity the palestinians. They are used as victims by the people sho should instead have taken them in, ie the Jordanians, the Saudi-Arabians, and the Egyptians. And some more...

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Racist Zionists (RZs) & Nazis compared

These pictures and this [ http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html ] make some sense.

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Racist Zionist (RZ) Apartheid Israel LIE

Post #79 repeats 2 major racist Zionist (RZ) LIES - LIES that are rejected with documentation below.  
 
LIE #1 is that Occupied Palestinians in what the Catholic Church describes as the Israeli-guarded Gaza Concentration Camp (and one of the mostly densely populated places on the Planet yet being BOMBED by war criminal. quintessentially Nazi Apartheid Israel with 1,300 Gazans killed in reprisal for ZERO Israelis killed by Gaza rockets in the preceding year ) are there assertedly not because of \"Israel\" (!) but because because of Arab neighbors having not \"taken them in\" (!) - the TRUTH is that MILLIONS of Indigenous Palestinians expelled from and forbidden to live in their own country by the genocidal Nazi-style Apartheid Israelis have been taken in by Middle East Arab countries and other countries. 
 
The number of UN-registered Palestinian refugees by country as of 2005 were as follows (see: Palestinian refugee): 
 
* Jordan 1,827,877 refugees 
* Gaza 986,034 refugees 
* West Bank 699,817 refugees 
* Syria 432,048 refugees 
* Lebanon 404,170 refugees 
* Saudi Arabia 240,000 refugees 
* Egypt 70,245 refugees. 
 
There are currently 10.6 million Palestinians world wide - 1.5 million second class Indigenous Palestinian Israeli citizens under Nazi-style Apartheid Laws (their 2 major parties have been banned; forbidden to marry Occupied Palestinians; compelled like Jews in Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied Europe to carry Nazi-style race-specific ID ); 4 million Occupied Palestinians abusively imprisoned (now for over 40 years) in increasingly confined Concentration Camps or Bantustans; about 7 million Palestinian refugees in total, 4.5 million being registered with the UN) (see; Palestinian people).  
 
Despite 60 years of Nazi-style racist Zionist(RZ) ethnic cleansing the Indigenous Palestinian population of the Holy Land (5.5 million) is about 50% of the Holy Land Population (the other half are the Jewish Israeli colonists and their descendants who actively and passively KILL about 5,000 Occupied Palestinians (half of them INFANTS) EACH YEAR to maintain their evil, racist, Apartheid grip on the Holy Land that Jesus walked.  
 
In addition to carrying the HUGE refugee burden, the neighbours of Apartheid Israel have all suffered invasion, occupation and mass murder at the hands of the Nazi Israelis. Thus 1950-2005 avoidable deaths (excess deaths from deprivation) in countries variously invaded and occupied by Apartheid Israel total 24 million, the breakdown (expressed as a ratio of 1950-2005 excess deaths /2005 population in millions, m; * means occupation by a further foreign country in the post-1945 era) being Israel [0.095m/6.685m =1.4%] - Egypt* [19.818m/74.878m = 26.5%], Jordan* [0.630m/5.750m = 11.0%], Lebanon [0.535m/3.761m = 14.2%], Occupied Palestinian Territories* [0.677m/3.815m = 17.7%], Syria* [2.198m/18.650m = 11.8%], total = 23.858m/106.854 = 22.3% (see: Body Count. Global avoidable mortality since 1950 ).  
 
LIE #2 is that \"they [Occupied Palestinians] die because they are used as a shield for Fascist regime\" . 
 
Whether you like them or not {I, for example am an agnostic Humanist] , religiously-oriented Hamas (Islamic in a Muslim country, like Christian Democrats in Christian Germany) was democratically elected in the 2006 \"elections\" held under Apartheid Israeli guns in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. In January 2006, Hamas won victory in the Palestinian parliamentary elections, taking 76 of the 132 seats in the chamber, while the previous ruling Fatah party took 43. In the absence of provision of life-sustaining requisites by the war criminal Occupier Apartheid Israel, Hamas is notable for attempting to provide social services in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (see: Overwheling democratic election landslide for Hamas).  
 
The Apartheid Israeli response was to arrest as many Hamas MPS as possible, impose a deadly blockade on Gaza and now attempt to kill the remainder by bombing, shelling and invading the Gaza Concenttion Camp - about 1,300 Gazans killed VERSUS ZERO Israeli deaths from Gaza rockets in the preceding year.  
 
The \"democratic Nazi\" US, UK, EU and war criminal, climate criminal, racist White Australia have declared democratically elected Hamas (76 seats) a \"terrorist\" organization and won\'t deal with it, dealing only with Fatah (43 seats) and racist Zionist, Nazi-style Apartheid Israel which is manifestly UN-democratic. 
 
Thus 2 Arab parties have 7 members of the 120 member Knesset (6% of seats despite representing 20% of the Israeli population who are Indigenous Palestinian) - but the racist Zionists have now BANNED these parties.  
 
Thus Wikipedia: \"The Knesset is due to be reconstituted following elections in February 2009. The composition of the Knesset is likely to change following a ban on the participation of the two Arab parties United Arab List-Ta\'al and Balad, by the The Central Elections Committee on the 12th January 2009\" (see: Knesset - Jewish Israelis ban Arab parties from Knesset) . 
 
Intra-national and international Sanctions and Boycotts are the only way to bring the quintessentially Nazi Israelis and their racist Zionist (RZ) and pro-Zionist backers to heel and to STOP the ongoing US-, UK-, EU- and racist White Australia-backed Palestinian Genocide. 
 
PERSONAL NOTE: I am morally OBLIGED object to the Nazi-style, indeed quintessentially Nazi, racist Zionist (RZ), Apartheid Israeli Palestinian Genocide (a) for fundamental anti-racist and humanitarian reasons and (b) because MY family was \"ethnically cleansed\" from Hungary in 1944-1945 by the Nazi Germans. OUR homes and lands are also still occupied by strangers c/- post-war Hungarian Governments, this racist THEFT having been recently retrospectively endorsed by the \"democratic Nazi\" EU to permit Hungarian EU entry.

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Racist Zionist (RZ) Apartheid Israel LIE

Post # 80 one more time 
 
"These pictures and this: Hitler's Jewish Soldiers make some sense."

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sit down - calm down

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War is cruel - victims often innocent - comments fighting too - don't forget the history - Deir Yassin in 1948 to mention - and all the violence from both sides during this 60 years ! incompetent solutions ?

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WHAT GOES AROUND, WILL COME AROUND!!!

One Day .... and 2soon everything gotta change 4the best Inshalla!!! Hitler'd gone...and 2many unfair and cruel LEADERS .... who Loved controled us in everything!!! 
 
We live 2day and there are 2many other's, who we sould get rid off and wipe them from everywhere even the History!!! 
 
 
 
 
 
WE SHOULD STAND 4OUR RIGHTS as a human & help 2create peacful life for our kids....... every dark night has followed with bright sunny day with WIN!!

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Anti-Semitism???

Mr. Jonas Gahr Støre, Minister, 
Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 
 
Oslo, January 19, 2009 // 23th  
 
Ministry of Foreign Affairs distributes anti-Semitic propaganda 
 
Dear Jonas Gahr Støre. 
 
The Center against Antisemitism is appalled by the Foreign Ministry’s distribution of a collection of pictures which can only described as antisemitic propaganda. In the collection of images distributed today from the Foreign Ministry by an employee as an attachment to an e-mail, arranged images from the recent Israeli defensive campaign in Gaza have been synoptically linked to historical pictures from the Holocaust in such a manner that the Foreign Ministry is portraying the two events as being equivalent. 
The Center against anti-Semitism regrets that Norway’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is thus contributing to the intensification of anti-Semitic tendencies, which lately have been quite visible in the Norwegian media, and which have been reproved by both us and by international experts. We have shown the pictures in question to experts on the subject, and their unanimous conclusion has been that the Foreign Ministry, by this action has demonstrated that the Ministry and the Government in the course of the war have actively supported Hamas in the ongoing conflict in Gaza. 
During the ongoing conflict, the Norwegian Government, through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, has, along with other European Governments, sought to play a role as a mediator in relation to the Egyptian peace initiative. We fail to see that the distribution of anti-Semitic pictures is compatible with a role in the peace process concerning Gaza. We ask the Ministry to immediately recall the disseminated pictures, and to publicly apologize for the incident. 
 
Sincerely 
Center against anti-Semitism (SMA) 
Erez Uriely, Director 
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Israeli ambassador to Norway

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Reality

This is the reality for the Palestinian. 
 
No one does anything, Why?

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Reality

Add to this picture this move and see what are those Jews: 
http://www.ikhwantube.org/video/2655/The-Childrens-of-Palestine-A-must-See-movie

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an eye for an eye?!

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88. Good link

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anti what?

Is it Israel or all the jews in the world?  
 
Did the Jews kill the Palestinians in Gaza? Of course not! Olmert and the Israeli army did it!  
Is it fair to blame all the jews for this agression? No, it is Olmert and the Israeli army who are to blame! 
 
So why do some of the Jews not even living in Israel take any critique against Israel personally, and start the blame-game - bring up holocaust, antisemitism and make paranoid attacks on people with a different view on the Gaza conflict? 
 
If I dont't like toy-guns for kids, it doesnt mean that I hate the toy industry! 
If I don't like hamburgers, it doesn't mean I hate America (and food in general) 
If the Nazis burned down my hometown in 1945, it doesn't mean that I hate Germany. 
If I dont't like Robert Mugabe, it doesn't mean that I hate black people! 
If I don't support what Dr. Mengele did (or the Norwac doctors in Gaza) it doesn't mean I hate modern medicine! 
If I think Uri Geller is a fraud - it doesn't mean I'm an antisemit. 
If I'm scared of flying it doesnt mean i hate Lufthansa! 
 
So, to Hell with Olmert and the Israeli army, and long live the jews, the muslims, the christians, the non-believers, and the rest of the peace loving peoples of the world!  
 
Please show me some healthy subversive Israelis - I know they are there - not marching to the beat of the drum - being called "traitors" by their own countrymen! 
 
Try peace - it is not bad at all! (oh, yes that applies to the arabs aswell, I wouldn't like being labelled anti-muslim either...) 
 
Ok, please reply - shoot yourself in the foot and call me an antisemit.

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anti what?

To: Center against anti-Semitism (SMA)  
Erez Uriely, Director  
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Israeli ambassador to Norway 
 
The pictures have nothing to do with 'anti-semitism'. They mearly portray what was done to Jews by Nazis and what is being done to Palestinians by the Jewish State of Israel. Any offence you feel from the pictures should be directed to those causing the offence, namely, ISRAEL!  
 
It was ISRAEL who slaughtered the innocent Palestinian children (who are also semites)in those pictures, just as the Nazis slaughtered the innocent Jewish children.  
 
If there is any 'anti-semitism' here, it comes from you and those like you who have betrayed those innocent Jews killed by Nazis during the Holocaust. Their memories should have been RESPECTED by YOU more than anybody! In their memory, you should have delivered on the common call of the Jews 'NEVER AGAIN, TO ANYONE!' - That noble statement INCLUDES PALESTINIANS! STOP THIS GENOCIDE!

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isreal is wrong

are u lot dom how can u say tht there is no comparasion. well i tell u now dere is , u tellin me tht jews r doing da right thing attacking palastine civilian NO!!!. it is wrong in britian and america thy usuually go in 2 da country and find the person they want 2oo get aka 'teriorist'. but atleast they dont kill inasent civilians. and Y da hell when a muslim or a person from da middle east not including da jew does some thing illegal they call him a teriorist buh if it was an amrican or british they find laughable excuses like he was a junky or was mentally ill. i mean wat has the world turned to. and did u notice when OBAMA became the prasedent isrealis stoped the war with palestinies wat pussys. it is basiclly whenn jews nearly got demolisd by nazes dey were all scared and runing for dere lifes buh when dey attacted the palestines the were happy desgusting

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Israel "defending" themselves?

How can Israel, the OCCUPYING FORCE be the one defending themselves? And how can the world tolerate this? If the US, the UK or any other country were occupied by an opressive government people would support the resistance. Israel should never have been created.

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Israel "defending" themselves?

Anyone who seriously can't see the difference between these two things, and don't find this picture by picture comparement ridicolous(?) needs to read some history or just open their eyes a little. I mean, not that I'm not totally pissed of at israel for doing what they did, but come on. Everyone with an IQ over 90 KNOW that you can't just take two pictures and compare them.

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Israel "defending" themselves?

A picture is worth a thousand words

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What is comparable is the personal level

The pictures compare situations of violence and human suffering. In that they are true. 
 
The comparison fails as the Nazis were attempting genocide, while Israel is merely trying to get more land (hence push out Palestinians) and when Palestinians push back to exert violent control. 
 
Part of the response of Palestinians, some Palestinians, has been indiscriminate violence against civilians. Some Imams--too many--sanction that violence. 
Part of the violence which Israel causes tries to spare civilians (sometimes), but the violence Israel allows from its settlers is targeted at civilians, and when the IDF tanks roll into Bethlehem or Gaza, soldiers and units- pushed by the ideology of revenge and conquest and at times blessings of Rabbis-also have actually targeted civilians. 
 
And the level of "collateral damage" whether civilians were targeted or not is beyond the pale. 
 
Yes, Israel is trying to defend itself. But it is also trying to conquer and control another people. 
 
There's blame to share on all sides. 
First things first: the occupation must stop. 
Today people in Gaza cannot rebuild: Israel controls everything and will not let the goods in. Will that stop violence? (Best post was #34)

http://www.livingbetweenworlds.blogspot.com

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Watch and judge for yourself

Find on the net document called "Palestine is still the issue" and then decide who is right and who is wrong. Who is terrorised and who is terrorist...

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the jewish bombs

I will try to answer the following popular question with simple logic.  
 
"Did the Jews have an agenda stating as a goal the destruction of Germany? And where were their rockets?" 
 
The problem for Nazi Germany wasn't foreign warfare. It was foreign ideas. Because National Socialism is an ideology, it is intellectual warfare: you don't bomb people out of their bodies. You talk them out of their minds. The problem for the national socialist idea -that the national identity/history is the most important thing ever- is that Jews are traditionally a people who confess to, and believe in, statelessness. In that sense, religion is practically intellectual warfare. Religion doesn't need rockets: it sends in some preachers and some "important books". Those are the bombs the Jews threw into Germany to tear The Third Reich apart. I am not an anti-Semite. I believe that everyone should have the right to send rockets towards oppression. I just faced the fact that words can be of more danger (to some- not me) than even bombs can. Palestine does not have a word against Israel. Just bombs.

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Complete Hogwash

If Arabs were to lay down there arms, there would be no more war in the Middle East.  
 
If Israel were to lay down it's arms, there would be no more Jews in the Middle East

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#99 - Hogwash

So, if Palestinians lay down all fights, the Israeli government would withdraw the settlements and stop destroying homes in Jerusalem? Or--as there was a truce in Gaza from June to November--it would allow a normal economy in Gaza? (Memo: it didn't!). 
Why has Israel never responded to the Arab League offer for recognition by all Arab States?  
Open your eyes: it's not black and white. Israel is not a saint. You're heading nowhere with the brainwash of saints and demons-- Israel is not just destroying Palestine; it's destroying the future of a Jewish State. Wake up from the propaganda. For your own sake.

http://www.livingbetweenworlds.blogspot.com

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Simply Propaganda

Just randomly selecting photos out of context is hardly proof of Israeli "atrocities". Some of those photos on the right aren't even about the Palestinians, but rather the Lebanese during the 2006 Lebanese War.

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Proof of Nazi-style Israeli atrocities

The photos are an adjunct to the Proof of Apartheid Israeli atrocities - about 1,400 Gazans killed in reprisals for ZERO (0) Israelis killed by Gaza rockets in the year preceding this Nazi-style Apartheid Israeli Gaza Massacre.

http://mwcnews.net/gideon-polya

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Proof of Nazi-style Israeli atrocities

Who started it? Who broke the ceasefire? find out the truth here http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians

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Concentration Camp

Isreal just takes after its two mothers on the predisposition to genocidal practices, to take what is not theirs for imperialistic, purposes, G.B and the U.S. Hitler deamonized to groups but in the end he was after Russia's oil, guised as a war to stop the commies. His goal for world domination was hinged on that natural resource. The aging baby boomers capitalist elitists insist on world domination of markets thru oil control and Isreals selfish objectives a link pin in that puzzle. Hitler was only protecting the interests of germany's elites. History contorted and ignored is history repeated. The ignorance of many posts reflect, the poor knowledge of the social and economic conributing factors of the white mans burden and its true story. Now we have a Black man leading the movement. Facts remain.

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Palestinians are HOSTAGES

1. All communication has a propaganda component and information content. This photo presentation has both. In my view it cannot be dismissed merely as propaganda. The point is the pictures on the right panel would never be permitted to be seen on Western mainstream media, who overwhelmingly present an Israeli/US friendly view.  
 
2. Criticisms of Israel or Jews containing anti-Semitism are totally futile and negative. 
There are plenty of Jews who actively oppose these injustices. If you have nothing worthwhile to say - say nothing.  
 
3. Religious fundamentalists whose basis for theft is scripture and the might of the Israeli army are insecure and foolish enough to try and justify Armageddon. 
Palestinians are living in one large prison camp and are in fact HOSTAGES. 
 
4. We have to get organised and vocal to match the influence of the Pro-Israel lobby that attack any media outlet who dares to publish anything critical of Israel’s failed Palestinian policies.

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mrs

If you are still believeing what you are told about herr hitler and do not find out for yourselve but parrot all tghe well worn descriptions of him , then probably all your info is no good either.the lies about hitler and germany in general sprouted up late in the war.the truths were buried alongside the german people.you dont get history form the winners. Do you knowwhat barabarism the allies rained down upon germany? england declared war on germany. hitler wanted none of it . He spared them at dunkirk.

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Churchill's racist war crimes

Hitler was a monster as assessed from the number of people murdered in Nazi-occupied Europe: 30 million Slav, Jewish and Gypsy (Roma and Sinti) victims. 
 
However the Allied bombing of German cites was undoubtedly an egregious war crime. Further, Churchill was also a monster: he deliberatley starved 6-7 million Indian to death in 1943-1945 (see recent BBC broadcast involving me, Economics Nobel Laureate Professor Amartya Sen and others: man-made WW2 Bengali Holocaust, Bengal Famine ). 
 
See also Media Lying over Churchill\'s Crimes. British Indian Holocaust .

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CRIME

"To blame God for the theft and occupation of someone else's land by claiming that it was He who had pledged this land exclusively to the Jews, and to seriously promote the myth of a land promised by the Almighty to His favourite children as an excuse for this crime, is insanity."

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Iran

Iran's nuclear program is to build a power station, an activity Iran is allowed to do under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, signed not only by Iran but by the United States. 
Furthermore, under the terms of that treaty, specifically Article IV, the United States it not only obligated to allow Iran to build nuclear power stations BUT TO ASSIST THEM IN DOING SO, a sure fire means to make sure that there are no clandestine weapons labs (such as exists underneath Israel's Dimona complex).

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Iran

Israel violated international law by targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure, misusing weapons, deliberately denying medical care to the wounded and attacking medical personnel, the National Lawyers Guild Delegation to Gaza said upon releasing a 37-page report containing new evidence on the facts surrounding Israel’s 22-day military offensive in Gaza. The full report can be viewed at www.nlg.org. Photos are also available upon request

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Isis

holocaust never happened.except on germany.israel was created in an allready ocuppied area by arabs. ashkenazi jews are not native to eastern mediteranean.england had no right to declare such a thing.Hitler was for a jewish state in case you didnt know and supported the exodus of jews to middle east,judea declared war on germany in 1934, but currently america is a arm of israeli policy.we do doo for them. and america is being trashed as we sit.by the global agenda called communism invented by whom?the system is reeking to hi heaven on the countless people massacred over the cebnturies by the psychopaths running this pathetic dog an pony show.we are better than this i would like to think but I not know why i think that.

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Isis

world jewish population was higher after ww2 civilian targetting was a major part of the war effort of america and england, i not know what you people read for history but it isnt at all what the truth is. history as taught in any school is a bunch of left out information,side slipping major issue,people are never aware of the lies they believe from propaganda.anything in the popular air is usually a lie and has a intention to further soemthing they want, all the wars were contrived they did the common person absolutely no good what so ever.period.

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Jews should be be Jews not Nazis

Moshe Menuhin, Orthodox Jewish scholar, anti-racist, anti-Zionist and and father of outstanding violinist Yehudi Menuhin stated re Israeli oppression of Palestinians: “Jews should be Jews - not Nazis” (see: Moshe Menuhin. Anti-racist, anti-Zionist Orthodox Jewish scholar and writer).  
 
For opinions of other anti-racist Jews against racist Zionism see : Jews Against Racist Zionism .

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isis

T]he American Jewish Committee and the Statistical Bureau of the Synagogues of America confirm that the world population of persons professing Judaism in 1939 [the year World War II started] was 15,682,259, and that in May 1948, the world Jewish population was between 15,600,000 and 18,700,000. Based on these figures, it appears that the alleged extermination of 6 million Jews is nothing but a myth. so do you not believe your own synagogues and great american jewish council?

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5-6 million Jews died in WW2

Post 114 is obnoxious as is denial or ignoring of ANY holocaust whether the Armenian Genocide (1.5 million killed), or of post-invasion violent and non-violent avoidable deaths associated with the ongoing Indigenous Australian Genocide (Aboriginal Genocide, 2 million excess deaths 1788-present), the ongoing Palestinian Genocide (0.3 million), the ongoing Iraqi Genocide (2.3 million) and the ongoing Afghan Genocide (3-7 million).  
 
According to outstanding historian of WW2 Professor Sir Martin Gilbert, 5-6 million Jews died in WW2 with 1 in 6 dying from deprivation (see Gilbert, M. (1969), Jewish History Atlas (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, London). 
Gilbert, M. (1982), Atlas of the Holocaust (Michael Joseph, London)).

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Moral continuity & a total lack of-it

Once again it seems there are Jews (Rightly) talking-up the obviously Satanic & evil inhumanity of the Nazi holocaust from WW2 but then speaking no further on the group who provably financed 'BOTH-SIDES' of the whole WW2 & the cold-war that followed & everyone knows they who pay the piper call the tune... It's very disingenuous of Jews to refuse to share their obvious knowledge of the Zionist Illuminati that have run the top four 29-33rd levels of the Masons since their (Renaming) creation in the 1600s through which the entire western world was (Is) ruled & it's a Jewish shame they don't talk of the 900-year old provable control this same Zionist Illuminati group that sprang from the Norman conquerors have had ever since & it's a shame they never speak of the ongoing totality & continuity of that same original Zionist Illuminati group that first originally came from the Assyrian & Babylonian Diaspora that Solomon arranged for in a deal with the Great White Brotherhood who in his time had their headquarters in Heliopolis & who headquartered in Tibet for the 1000-years of their Muslim religious wars... (These same Normans which sprang from the Assyrian & Babylonian Diaspora & which were wrongly called Norsemen were later added to by the Roman Diaspora) These facts were carefully related to me by various mostly Jewish Masons who were all pretty (Rightly) disgusted with the way their community leaders were all playing possum with their knowledge of the same hidden true political & financial history of the world & the (False) hidden history put forward to deceive people... Now this same old group of feudal Norman conquerors are sitting on control of America & the multiple thousands of neutron-bombs they plan on using on the world in a dirty Purim-day sneak attack & in my-own sometimes spiritual opinion the total hypocrisy of any Jews or others supporting this coming massive Satanic neutron-bomb genocide will literally damn them... You would have to be a total fool to think the inhabitants of the real eternal-city would have any need or desire to have mass-murderers of ANY race nationality or religion within their city whether Christ-IAN Jew or other... (sic) 
 
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